Stereo advise
 

I just bought 4- MB Quart speakers, they are these:http://www.mbquart.com/2003/en_US/pr...;model=PCE+216

I will be running them at 80W RMS per channel and have a few questions for the DTR Audio gurus.

1) What size & kind of speaker wire would you recommend?

2) These speakers are components that can also be used as a coax with their special mountings. Would you separate them? and if so how about putting the front tweeters in the dash?

Thanks in advance for any and all advise!

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I like to use 12 guage spkr wire myself ..........but any good quality name brand 16 gauge or larger wire will work

these guys make nice stuff


IMO do not mount the tweets in the dash ......you can get some nasty reflections off the glass .....tweets should also be mounted as close to the mid as possible

mount them coaxial style ..........it works great and makes em easy to mount :)

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Dodgeram I have to disagree coaxials suck peroid. Mounting the tweets in the dash is not a bad thing at all or the a pillars or the top of the doors if the mid is lower. Most high end component sets have a DB select for different tweeter mounts to keep them from giving bad noise off glass etc... Mine do and I have installed others that do as well. As for speaker wire I have found in our trucks the pickup noise quite easily I would recommend some of the newer stuff like the braided lines with the isolator wire in them to cancel out noise. I run it in my truck each set of wires comes wrapped in a clear sheve with the 2 speaker leads wound or weaved with an isolaotor wire to clean any noise in the system. Very trick stuff not to much loot and worth any penny.

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Thanks DodgeRam and Jamie,
I have been looking at a nice spot on the door panel that will enable me to aim the tweets right at me.
I don't plan on using a sub as I just don't want to give up storage space and was told that the cross overs will kill any base that I am looking for out of the mids, is that true? Can't I still drive some base from those mids somehow?

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Matt the crossover that comes with your speakers will ensure that the correct bass is given to the driver and it will also send the right frequencies to the tweeter. If you do not use it you will most likely damage the speaker with a range of frequencies that are out of its range.

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well like jamie says the trick stuff works great make sure if u use it only one end of the shielding should be grounded. other wise use the largest guage wire within reason 10 or 12, less resistance in the wire more power to the speaker. one way which is very popular to mount a 2 way component is to mount the tweeter below the base drive aimed up at an angel you want to aim the passenger speaker right at the driver and the drivers speak right at the passenger. high frequencies are ver direction and have a narrow dispersion(sp). You will hear the highs from the d/s because they r close and from the passenger cause it is aimed at you unless someone is sitting there, just a suggestion. I dont recomend moving the 2 components to far apart you ruin the imagaing of the speaker.
Dan

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[quote author=Jamie link=board=10;threadid=19622;start=0#msg184367 date=1063501105]
If you do not use it you will most likely damage the speaker with a range of frequencies that are out of its range.
[/quote]I wasn't planning on not using it, I was just wondering if the components with cross overs are more "designed" to be used with a sub and I won't hear much base.

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Different types of crossovers. Typically, the crossovers on component speakers are referred to as passive crossovers. Someone else posted, I can't remember whether it was in this thread or another one in a different forum area, about how these work, the crossover points, slopes, etc. When you run a subwoofer, you'll typically need an electronic crossover to route the lower frequencies to a separate amp for the subs.

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[quote author=jfpointer link=board=10;threadid=19622;start=0#msg184521 date=1063553249]
When you run a subwoofer, you'll typically need an electronic crossover to route the lower frequencies to a separate amp for the subs.
[/quote]So then the crossovers in my set should allow for some base?? I have not received the order yet and could resell the unopened box and I guess what am concerned about is that since I plan to not have a sub would I be better off with a 3 way coax over a 2 way component when it comes to base richness?

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the crossovers that come with a componet set rought the frequencies between the mid and the tweeter they do not cut any low end off from the mids

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[quote author=dodgeram link=board=10;threadid=19622;start=0#msg184593 date=1063574014]
the crossovers that come with a componet set rought the frequencies between the mid and the tweeter they do not cut any low end off from the mids


[/quote]Gotcha, that would make more sense when the manufacture has no idea if you are using them with or without a sub. Thanks dodgeram

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[quote author=dodgeram link=board=10;threadid=19622;start=0#msg184187 date=1063443315]
I like to use 12 guage spkr wire myself ..........but any good quality name brand 16 gauge or larger wire will work
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I dont know why yall would use anything more than 14ga. The most you really need is like some 16ga. I always use 16/2 or 16/4 Direct connect quadsheild. In all the 5 yrs. I have been in stereo I have never had any problems with wire not beingbig enough.

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your right formids/tweets 12 gauge is not needed ............I use it cause I can get 100ft rolls of the stuff for 34 bucks so it's what I get

I will say when pushing mega power t6o subs I'd consider larger wire

when running 1600 watts through 12 guage after a couple hours the wire is hot to the touch............

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Then you must have had a problem wire because we go to competitions we use 14ga wire for everything but for tweeters we use 16ga. For amps we use 1/0 per amp. But running 14ga to all 4 subs and pushing 6K watts the wire never got hot during comps. Even when driving around the wire never got hot. [eyecrazy]

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The prongs on the plug for my built in George Foreman Grill get hot sometimes. :o [laugh]