Thought someone might be interested in the sheer volume and size of the latest technology going up.
There are made in Europe (denmark maybe?) sail across the ocean to the Saint Lawrence river, down to the Great Lakes (Lake Ontario in this case)
arrive at port in Oswego, New York and tractor trailer shipped under full police escort from their to near my home in Dansville, New York for placement in two counties, about 40 miles Northwest and Southeast of me. *Bliss, NY and Cohocton, NY)

300 are going in at Bliss, NY former farm country hills. no property taxes, so every 70s mobile home is now a 200,000 dollar spread. these huge windmills (blades are 174 each, times three) have three sections of tubular support tower then the turbine head and blades, averaging about 320 feet high.

to me, returning to where I had a farm 25 years ago, it looked like war of the worlds when the aliens were walking around the area. but because of the hills, you only see two or three at a time. something you could get used to seeing. not that invasive.

they are massing the deliveries now, for construction of the special 60 wide roads and electric line supports are still being built. think a concrete polygram 60 feet wide by 30 feet deep, tapered.

enjoy, ask questions and yeah, SOME places are good for these things!

 

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Theres a bunch going up in Northwestern MO. My dads on a board of directors for a local electric coop. A guy he talked to said they were having problems with poeple shoting the blades.

 

shooting the blades? great, that'll make a low cost power generation operation get expensive from repairs.

 

think I'll ask the engineers here what they cost per blade.

I do know that seven windmills were installed at the edge of lake Erie near Buffalo, New York. near the old steel mills. it was such a powerful wind that they shut down six of the windmills due to the cost of fixing just one! I truly hope that this is a different company out here. wow, amazing amount of bucks...


shooting the blades? like yee haw drunk cowboy or protesters greenpeace idiots?

 

"that'll make a low cost power generation operation get expensive from repairs."

The crane to put the top part up is 200K a day. The wind is the only cheap part involved. Read up on them and you will be suprised.

 

I flew my Cessna up the St. Lawrence river a few years back and there was and area along the river that went for miles that had them things . They had a few different kinds and they seemed to be producing . There is nothing up there for miles and the airports are far apart so when you fly up on that wind farm it was impressive to see . I imagine the power was going back to Quebec , but I guess it could be going any were .

 

yes sir! have property off the river near Ogsdenburg, NY and a wind farm is just off tug hill plateau area on a crest at 700 feet. supplies New york though....very impressive. we tell the migrant farm workers it is missle detection systems...

near Quebec is both testing stations- one is windpower farm another is hydra siesmic, from the wave and current of the water. Canadians just have better politicians, I am convinced. very efficient set up and fair to all .

Hey malamute man, yeah- only like FOUR cranes that can do this in the world. we have two of them here in New york. mighty pricey be we watched them work one afternoon. I would pay much more for the skill of the operator, for sure!!! aligned the eight mounting three inch diameter bolts to the turbine head from his cab. GPS, magnetic help or not; that was good in the open wind!

 

There's a storage facility at the Port of Houston where the blades are unloaded off of ships coming from Europe. Impressive.

MikeyB

 

not the price of installing and building them. the cheap part is constant running by free wind.

but if some dummies are shooting them, the companies will have to constantly repair the blades, guess who gets the cost added to their bill?

 

Whats it going to cost in bird kills?

From what I have heard, (my be wrong nowadays) wind maintenance costs out pace the investment recapture capability, they never become profitable. They are subject to micro-bursts, high erratic winds, ice storms, bird contamination, and high break down rates due to the size and complexity of the generators, gear reductions, bearings, and balance & vibration issues. (and high caliber vandals!)

Have they solved any of these problems?

We have a huge wind Farm down here around Tehachapi hundreds of them, (prop jobs big and small, and egg beaters) At any given moment half aren't working (during heavy winds). Not to mention the mounds of dead birds below them.

Anybody have the numbers on profitability for wind?

I think wind is a good theory, But they need to get past how warm and fuzzy it makes everybody feel, and really focus on fixing some of the major issues. instead of this "if you subsidize/ mandate it, they will come" mentality.

thats my .02

D-C out!


PS If I have missed the mark and unbeknown to me wind is super cheap, highly profitable, and super low environmental impact, and the powers that be aren't mandating or subsidizing these installations I apologize.

 

We have some going up. Hardly any noise and the farmers who have them get paid for having them. A rumor has it one that has about 10 of them on hi get a $250,000 paycheck every year/couple of years. I say bring them on!

 

They're putting up a bunch of those things here too. The bad part about it is that we don't get the power that they generate. It's getting sent all the way to Chicago. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

 

There are thousands around here, they are going up like weeds. I heard they cost $1 million a piece. The reason so many are going up is because of the gov. incentives right now, once thats gone, it will be interesting to see if they last.

 

They are already up by my BIL's place outside of Bloomington Illinois, and they are now starting a huge wind farm up by Streator ( where I live ). Right now, the average payment per unit to a farmer is 5,000 or so ( I forget the exact number ). When they get to my place I will get 1500/year as a "good neighbor".

I say bring em on....... They are projecting 8.5 c/KWH cost.