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Old 10-07-2018, 07:20 AM
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No more teeth

On Friday morning I had to undergo an operation, removing all my teeth and parts of the jawbones.
This was necessitated by the long term effects of splinters causing infections in the jawbones, creating pus pockets of such pressure that teeth came out on their own.
(Long story, involving a war over here and an infection, some nice people and a bit of pain..)


Right now I am sitting here and wonder how it will work with the prothesis in the short run, still swollen and in "some" pain, which is manageable.

So, if I might seem a bit dull, angry or whatever at the moment, this might be caused by the mentioned circumstances.
(And the nice handful of painkillers I got)

Nevertheless, the outlook is positive and the necrosis was not far enough to literally make me lose my face.

If there should be a morale to this, I don't know, maybe... make the best of any situation you are in, or something like that.

Cheers

Markus
Old 10-07-2018, 07:27 AM
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OUCH OUCH OUCH. Not fun at all. I have a saying that "I love my dentist on the golf course but hate his guts in the chair in his office." That does not sound like fun at all, Markus. Let's hope for good
results. Just to maybe help, you have company. I go in tomorrow morning for a molar removal. I am going back in with a bridge and save that additional misery of the implant. ………….

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Old 10-07-2018, 09:57 AM
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Good Luck to you Bob!

I hope you'll get it done without complications. Why a bridge instead of an implant?
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Splinters? What are you, a beaver? I'd say you guys have the wrong dentist. The first one I had, a woman was brutal when she extracted one of my molars. She also told me most of my teeth were bad and had to be worked on. I held out as long as I could then went to a different dental clinic. The guy was great. Painless root canal (ya I heard all the horror stories) and crown, a painless extraction (didn't need that one anyway, a spair), and a painless filling. And my teeth weren't as bad as the previous said. I will probably do the bridge thing for the missing molar. I keep biting my jaw.
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Can't say that ANY dentist I've,ever,gone too, in which I felt they were providing an honest evaluation, and not looking to buy a,new Mercedes-Benz with one of my procedure payments
Old 10-07-2018, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by cougar
Splinters? What are you, a beaver?
Not wooden splinters, some ammo fragments, sorry for my bad English.

Good to read that you found a competent dentist.

Over here I do not have the feeling that they want to do unnecessary procedures just to buy the next Mercedes Benz...
But there seems to be a wide bandwidth in specialization, and a dire need to find the right person for exactly your problems.
Docs working for the public health system over here aren't really allowed to advertise, and it's sometimes hard to find the right person.
I went to a university lead hospital and got 2 excellent specialists with experience with the problems I have.
I hope to have a complete reconstruction within a year. (If the bones grow as planned, and there is enough bone to carry implants)
But for the moment I've got a nice set of swollen cheeks and lips, and absolutely no motivation for work.

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**** Markus, prayers and best wishes heading your way!
Old 10-07-2018, 01:47 PM
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Best of luck.
I try to exercise regular dental maintenance and do my part at home.
Implants are nothing. The root canals can be tricky.
Journey to the center of your brain it seems.
Old 10-07-2018, 02:22 PM
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This post made me cringe. Having had my share of tooth problems can relate up to a point, but not as bad as what you are going through. Hope the majority of the pain goes away quickly and that your get up and go returns soon.
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Root canals shall no longer be available in AlpineRAM's system to cause shenanigans

This is just some old stuff catching up now. Basically if you embed some metal in your bones when you are young and healthy your body will encapsulate these nuisances in little pockets of pus.
If those get disturbed they will damage bones, and if they get into the hollows of the bones carrying your teeth one day they can be disturbed in a way that all this fills up with pus and pushes out teeth due to the pressure of the pus and the decayed bone and the gingival being damaged too they will pop out- then it's beyond time to get the stuff fixed.
3 weeks ago everything was fine and dandy- no toothaches, nothing. But a cold managed to inflame that old stuff after about 25 years.
Classic remedies to get the inflammation under control did not help, and an x-ray showed increasing damage to the bones, so action needed to be taken.
Now, all teeth removed, all the hollow parts of the bone cleaned, dead material removed, the interdental ridges of the removed teeth "recycled" to become bridging material for the holes in the jaws... I think modern medicine is cool but not needing it would be cooler still.
But on the other hand there would be a lot less of experience in my life if I had always trod along the path of reason and safety instead of the path of moral conviction and curiosity.

Nevertheless, I wish everybody healthy teeth and for all who had to go for prosthesis I would be glad for the little tips and tricks of handling those buggers.

Anyways I am still here.
(Beats the alternative on a democratic resolution of the relevant quorum:me)
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Originally Posted by AlpineRAM
Good Luck to you Bob!
I hope you'll get it done without complications. Why a bridge instead of an implant?
Marcus - -- I think you answered you own question in your last post. I have heard too many bad experiences with implants. Plus, a lot more expensive. And takes longer to heal. Both molars on each side of the tooth to be pulled have existing crowns, so not a lot of prep work on those two teeth and it gives them a chance to give those two teeth a good "crown off" inspection.

YUK - - - tomorrow morning.

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Good Luck Bob!
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Markus, thats a big trauma!
I truly hope you can recover quickly
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Just got back from oral surgeon. Young man, very sharp, talked his way all the way thru telling me what he was doing, what to expect. His assistant was a very nice young lady who was right there
every second. Only pain was that one shot on the inside top of the tooth - - that one is an ouch. But he had deadened everything around it all ready, so could have been worse. This was a molar
in the back (called tooth #3) upper. And, luckily it only had two roots. So, all in all, it went now. Waiting for shots to wear down and see what happens. Hope yours goes anywhere as well, Markus.
So many times I have threatened the same thing - - jerk um out - - two plates and get it over with. Much cheaper. :>)

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(This is 2 days after the operation)





Aside from being tired and swollen I do feel astoundingly well.
Modern chemistry for the win!
(I take only a light analgetic, and try to keep the dosage down. It's better to feel some pain when I do something wrong and avoid it than to feel really good and tear up the stitches)

Good luck when the shots wear off Bob, maybe the hint I got not to lift heavy stuff until the wound has healed has merit in your situation too.

Hey Scotty, I hope all is well for you and yours!

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