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Saw this last night on 60 minutes and have to say this is pretty amazing. Should cost the average person 3K and use half as much fossil fuels. I say bring it on.

 

Very interesting. I have heard rumors that GE and some other big energy companies have bought up alot of green energy patents in their own self interest of milking the cow they have as long as possible.

 

My wife was talking about this the other day.

 

Maybe THIS is why big energy companies are not builing new nuclear powerplants. Looks like they were just trying to minimize the sunk costs in the transfer.

 

No, the 'BIG' energy companies are not building new power plants because environmental groups file endless lawsuits and the government regulation is insurmountable.

 

I can not remember the name of the old man that designed it, but he made a magnetic reactor thing out of 2x4's and coils that would use a strand of "dead" AA batterys to run it. With just a little push by hand to get it going, the device generated constant power, and even ended up recharging the dead batterys that helped it do it's thing. I will see if I can not find the videos. It was over a year ago that I saw them.

 

I just watched the video. The guy seems kinda of wierd, but if what he is making is capable of creating power like he claims and it works for 10, 20, or 30 years... Great! The only issues I see is ok, now that natural gas is going to have a higher demand, how much is it then going to cost us to run the bloom box, and will it actually save us any money?

It's going to endup just like biofuels. The cost of corn has went through the roof because of E-85. Yet E-85 requires about 40% more fuel to produce the same power as conventional gasoilne. The issue is that the E-85 is not 40% or more cheaper than regular gasoline. Making it less effeicant.

And it effects more then just the cost of the fuel, even hunters and farmers were effected by the bio fuels. The cost of corn, wheats, oats, ect that have been used to feed animals for years are now more then double what they cost only 5 - 10 years ago.

 

Sounds like a very cool technology. Hopefully the big boys don't buy it out and put it on a shelf somewhere and forget about it.

 

Energy can not be transferred from one form to another with out a loss.

Perpetual motion is the longest running form of alchemy.

There is no free lunch. The laws of physics can not be beaten.

There is no 'big boy' buying up patents, there are no shelves full of free energy devices. Sorry guys, you play you pay. Those are gods rules not mine.

 

Well ain't you a kill-joy!

Actually, I didn't hear anything in that video about perpetual motion or that there was no loss in his energy transfer methods, just that it was more efficient than conventional generation systems. And it's a new technology, so old people like you will say it'll never work anyway!

 

I think we've called these 'generators' in the past.

 

It can actually run off of more than Natural gas, but being natural gas works and works well, they are using it for the test sites. He said it could run off solar, biofuel, and it works the same way a hydrogen fuel cell does but it is too difficuly to make pure hydrogen, hence why they were never mass produced.

 

Don't forget, Ethanol can be made from almost any bio matter, even restraunt waste. The people setting up the plants here are just to stupid to try anything but corn. The leftovers from making it are nutritious animal feeds. Modern methods of making it do not take more energy than it produces.

There is even a process to make ethanol from field grasses. I'm sure politics is probably why it has not been tried on a large scale yet. That would be a great way to do it, just mow the crop a few times a year with no other cultivation required.

Don't forget, the heat to produce ethanol does not need to come from oil, natural gas or electricity. How about a garbage fuelled ethanol plant, or maybe a geothermal fuelled plant??

 

The natural gas is the "cheapest" form of fuel to run it off of beside solar, becasue it takes little to no refinery to make a consumable product. To use bio or hydrogen the cost will be driven higher because of the required processes to make the fuel ready to be used.

 

They have been trying to make fuels out of good old regular pond algea and have been having some success. The good thing about this is, you can grow algea in abundance without driving up the cost of natural food resources.

I also remember reading somewhere about a company that uses the gasses created by a near by dump tp power the majority of thier operation.