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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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Please help me find the solution to this!

I brought my truck to a parking lot to set the idle because of noise...

And as the truck was running, I observed the buzzer and cab dome lights lose voltage...

I say voltage because the buzzer would quiet down with the flicker of the lights...

Can the voltage regulator be replaced on the alternator?

Or do I need a whole new unit?

You think this is the alt. or could something else cause this?

Thanks!
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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It is the cold wether getting here my friend. Your grid heaters are starting to cycle on and off. Nothing to worry about. Start it up on a cold morning, and watch the volt meter cycle. You will realize why these beasts come with 2 batteries stock then

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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by cumminsdriver635
It is the cold wether getting here my friend. Your grid heaters are starting to cycle on and off. Nothing to worry about. Start it up on a cold morning, and watch the volt meter cycle. You will realize why these beasts come with 2 batteries stock then

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Nah, this was very different...

The truck was warm already...
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 12:04 AM
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ur grid heater could still be cycling though....anyways check all ur connections and grounds...sounds like a loose connection...don't go and replace the aletrnator just yet
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 08:04 AM
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The Haynes manual for these trucks has an excellent section on checking all the components in the grid cycle circuit. Easy to follow step by step instructions. Well worth the $15.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mr T
ur grid heater could still be cycling though...
I could be wrong, but less than 18 MPH and less than 56*F ambient air temperature and your grids will cycle even if the engine.

I'm sure some will correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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No - that sounds familiar to me, too.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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OK, I know its not the grid heaters...

Anyone else?
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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Have you checked the amperage draw from the batteries with the engine off? Draw should be .5 amp or less. Expect some current to go toward the stereo and computer. If you're seeing excessive draw start pulling fuses until problem goes away. Now you know what circuit has the short. Current is measured in series. With a single battery setup, remove the negative cable. Configure your multimeter for Amp. Connect one side to battery cable and the other to the battery. This makes the meter part of the circuit. Many meters are not capable of power above 10amp. This is why everything should be off.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by wcjp
Have you checked the amperage draw from the batteries with the engine off? Draw should be .5 amp or less. Expect some current to go toward the stereo and computer. If you're seeing excessive draw start pulling fuses until problem goes away. Now you know what circuit has the short. Current is measured in series. With a single battery setup, remove the negative cable. Configure your multimeter for Amp. Connect one side to battery cable and the other to the battery. This makes the meter part of the circuit. Many meters are not capable of power above 10amp. This is why everything should be off.
Its fine...

And it only does it with the engine running...

Alternator?

Does the voltage regulator come with a new alt?
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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The voltage regulator is built in to the ECM. Do a search and you will find the conversion parts and process necessary to install an external voltage regulator and solve the problem for hardly any cost.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RCW
The voltage regulator is built in to the ECM. Do a search and you will find the conversion parts and process necessary to install an external voltage regulator and solve the problem for hardly any cost.
What is that black box on the alternator?

Could the alternator be going south at 130k?

Would this indicate a problem?

And the lights flicker more under acceleration...

HELP!!!!!
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 09:08 PM
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Should I take this to the dealer?

Anyone think this is gonna be a serious problem?

Would the alternator do this?

I've been digging around my truck all night looking for a cause...
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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When I had a first gen (a 91) the voltage regulator did go out a few times. It did have symptoms similiar to the grid heaters cycling, but was not the heaters kicking in. Usually when the RPMS were up, the alternator was putting enough power out to mask the problem but at idle, the lights would steadily dim then suddenly brighten back up.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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The black box on the back of the alt is defiantly the regulator, and yes they go bad.

If you have a meter hook it to the battery at Idle and tell me what it say in volts you should have atlest 14.0 volts.
you can also load it up by turning on all your accessory's on at the same time and checking to see what your meter reads with load on it. (headlights high beam, wipers, radio, heater)


you could also take it to auto zone and have them load test the whole system, they do it for free.


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If you want to check for a draw pull the negative battery cable and put a test light between the neg cable and neg battery lug, if it lights up you have a draw.
then like mentioned earlier start pulling fuses until the light goes out.
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