speedracer0626

Allright so my truck is a 2003 3500 5.9. It has been stalling on me no mater if pulling a load or not. So I go to the Zone and get a fuel filter, replace it now truck won't crank. Found out the transfer pump is dead. Call dealership and they tell me if the injection pump runs dry then it will fail so they tell me I need a retrofit kit that puts a pump in the tank. they said they could'nt get a transfer pump anymore just a retro kit. Any way i want it fixed right by myself. Was looking at the Napa site and they have an inline pump for a good price. What do I do? I am hurting for funds but need my truck to make money. Now i know we have some Dodge pros out there so please chime in.

leonesm

The 2003 model trucks had a lift pump mounted on the filter canister. This is a poor design and is one of the first things that fail on these trucks. Dodge replaces these parts with an in tank pump, like you said.

There are several different options out there if you don't want to pay for them to do it. It also would be beneficial to change to a higher volume pump if you have any performance upgrades. You can do a basic Walbro pump or go all out with a FASS or AirDog kit that has added filtration. There's plenty of information on here as well as opinions about which kit to buy. Whichever kit you buy it's a pretty simple install that can be done with basic tools. One thing to think about is that should your replacement pump ever go out, a frame mounted pump is a whole lot quicker and easier to change than one in the tank.

I've got a Walbro 392 pump and purchased it in the kit from Glacier diesel. I don't think he sells this particular kit anymore but they could set you up with everything you need. Again, it just really depends on what you're looking to accomplish. Hope this helps

speedracer0626

I'm keeping it stock for now. I just need it asap so I quess I have to buy the retrofit kit from the dealer. I'm just trying to figure out what that is that napa sells Item#: NFPP76110. They said it was an inline that is all the parts guys could tell me. Is that the transfer pump they sell?

Totallyrad

There was a thread up just in the last day or two where someone ordered the in tank kit for a little over $200 I think.

leonesm

I looked up that number and it appears to be a factory style replacement for the filter mounted lift pump. I can't remember exactly what mine looked like because it's been so long. I'm sure someone can correct me but I think that's what it is.

Even if that part was a direct replacement part I still wouldn't want that part on my truck. The placement and design of those pumps is just asking for problems. If you search on these forums you'll find plenty of threads about 03-04 lift pump failures. If it were me I would go with a simple frame mounted pump for piece of mind. If I replaced mine with an in tank pump I know it would die right after I filled the tank and I would be in the sticks somewhere without help

I'm not sure what the dealer would charge you for the in tank style but you might come out cheaper with a frame mounted pump as well.

Again, this is just my opinion. I know there are plenty of people with the in tank style pump that are happy with it. I just think that if you are going to spend the money you might as well put an upgrade on the truck. It might take you a little longer to install it but ultimately your truck will be more reliable for it.

tractorguyacb

YUP you are correct. That is indeed a napa equivalent of the OEM style pump. You could keep that style, but they really do not have a great track record as mentioned above. I would definitely look for something else. I have a raptor on my rig, and it has been fine, and i believe it was not too expensive either. You always have the option of putting the crappy napa one on and getting it warranted every time it craps out.

patdaly

At least you wouldn't have to drop the tank with the Napa unit.....

speedracer0626

Allright guys you talked me into it I figure if you do it might as well do it right. What do you think about this one? http://www.xtremediesel.com/bd-power...placement.aspx

leonesm

I don't have any experience with BD Power or these kits, but this pump kit looks to have a good flow rate and be reasonably priced. I believe the pump is a Carter 4601. It should be a good stock replacement and be pretty simple to install.

speedracer0626

Thanks guys i just purchased the bd pump and thet said it was a carter pump. great guys over there to do business with. Thanks

J BODY

No worries with the CP pump. I've changed ALOT of dead canister mounted lift pumps and have yet to follow it with a CP......now the old "VP"....that's the one that could get hurt.

fwiw I have yet to see an in tank pump fail. They are waaaayyy more reliable than what the older ones came with stock for sure.