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Old May 12, 2004 | 08:02 AM
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V-6 Diesel in a Ford, and it could be a Cummins...

From today's Autotech Daily:

V-6 DIESEL PROGRAM MAY BE BACK ON AT FORD

Ford Motor Co. is reviving plans to offer a V-6 diesel engine in its light-duty truck lineup, reports Automotive News. It says executives told Ford dealers the Expedition SUV and F-150 pickup would include a diesel option sometime after 2007 when the U.S. mandates the use of low-sulfur diesel fuels to meet more stringent emissions standards. It’s not clear who would produce the new powerplant. Ford had been working with Navistar International Corp. on a 4.5-liter V-6 diesel that was to have bowed on the F-150 two years ago. But that project was killed due to cost overruns and concerns about the engine’s emissions system. Ford eventually agreed to compensate Navistar for development costs and a new plant the supplier erected to produce the engine. Navistar still supplies the 6.0-liter PowerStroke diesel used in the highly profitable F-Series Super Duty pickups. But relations between the two companies were soured by the aborted V-6 program and a problem with the V-8 engine’s fuel injector that forced Ford to repurchase some 500 vehicles last year. Rival Cummins Inc. appears to be the leading contender if Ford opts not to go with Navistar. Cummins, which supplies the 5.9-liter inline six-cylinder diesel engine used in Dodge Ram 2500 and 3500 heavy-duty pickup trucks, is looking for new customers for a V-6 engine it is developing. In addition to the F-150 and Expedition, Ford also is considering using a diesel engine in future Lincoln Navigator SUVs. The company hasn’t officially confirmed the V-6 program is back on, but executives acknowledge that compression-ignition systems are a natural for full-size trucks. Other automakers seem to agree. AN points out that Nissan and Toyota likely will offer diesels in their Titan and Tundra pickups by the end of the decade, and that General Motors also has plans for a V-6 diesel truck engine.
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Old May 12, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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well we're ahead of the so called diesel trend! a V6 cummins diesel does sound interesting, the durango, dakota and jeep would all benefit.
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Old May 12, 2004 | 11:14 AM
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I think it would be great if Cummins came out with another V6.
A buddy of mine put one in a 59 Ford half ton about 15 years ago! it still going
strong.
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Old May 12, 2004 | 11:14 AM
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Wouldnt it be cool if Navistar and Ford broke off thier relationship due to bad blood over the 6.0L & V-6, and went with a Cummins powered diesel (not the 5.9, but maybe something else). That would be the bomb man!! Cummins would have the market cornered!

If I were Cummins, I would implant someone to start a fight between the two, and when they split up, I would show up at ford's back door with jam-up diesel for thier pick-up...........lol..im full of it.
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Old May 12, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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I don't care what Cummins and Ford does as long as I can still buy my Dodge Cummins powered trucks I will be happy. I'm sorry but I'm not driveing a Cummins powered Ford. The engine would be great but in a ugly under built wrapper? no thanks.
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Old May 12, 2004 | 12:43 PM
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old news.. Cummins and Dodge have been developing a 5.6 L V-6 diesel for the 1500 for a few years now...
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Old May 12, 2004 | 01:17 PM
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old news.. Cummins and Dodge have been developing a 5.6 L V-6 diesel for the 1500 for a few years now...
Uhhh...isn't that what the article says?
.....Cummins,........... is looking for new customers for a V-6 engine it is developing.
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Old May 12, 2004 | 01:50 PM
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thats would be cool a ram 1500 with a Cummins
too bad it's not a inline the V's are to crowded
have you guys seen under the hoods of the chevy dmax, ford 6L, and the dodge 600, which would you want to work on?
im not trying to bash here, i like the dmax and the ford is.. uhmmm.. a ford
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Old May 12, 2004 | 02:57 PM
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This really isn't surprising since Ford owns Cummins anyway.
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Old May 12, 2004 | 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by Hoss
This really isn't surprising since Ford owns Cummins anyway.
Only took him 7 posts this time.


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Old May 12, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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Old news Hoss! LOL!!
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Old May 12, 2004 | 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by Commatoze
Uhhh...isn't that what the article says?
.....Cummins,........... is looking for new customers for a V-6 engine it is developing.
I would assume DC would get first crack at the engine they've supplied vehicles to help develop and test the engine with.... Cummins may be free to shop the engine around but I'd reckon Dodge would put up a pretty penny to see that this engine goes into a Ram....


link for the Cummins news release, a little dated... 8/02.
http://www.osti.gov/fcvt/deer2002/stang.pdf
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Old May 12, 2004 | 06:21 PM
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Some of the Latin America markets get a small 4 cylinder Cummins engines in their half ton trucks. I often wondered why they didn't market them up here. A SUV with a small diesel in it should sell, plus you wouldn't have to listen to the greenies whine about you "Gas guzzling monster Suv's"
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Old May 12, 2004 | 07:54 PM
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Has anybody seen this:

Jeep Rescue - What A Concept!

Jeep has unveiled an all new concept vehicle designed to run over the harshest, most daunting terrains. The Jeep Rescue is a new level of Jeep designed for the most extreme off-road conditions, and it's powered by a Cummins Turbo Diesel engine. (Read more)

This would be MORE fun than the Ford or Chevy. They say the engine is the 5.9 inline 6
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Old May 12, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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