Rember That 5 Liter Cummins V8 Diesel For The Dodge Ram?
10-07-2010, 11:32 AM
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Rember That 5 Liter Cummins V8 Diesel For The Dodge Ram?
It's been total silence for several months now, but last time I read anything, Cummins and Chrysler had re-opened talks/work on a future small V8 diesel for the 1500 Dodge Ram, and possibly as an option on the 2500-3500 Dodge Ram line.
Anyone here have any new info. on whats going on with this?
When Chrysler went through the bankruptcy, the whole project was put on "hold", but after the bankruptcy, I remember reading here on the forum via a Pickups.com article that Cummins and Chrysler were back together again on this small V8 diesel project.
This could be a great option for the 1/2 ton Dodge Ram line.
GM used to offer a diesel option for their 1/2 ton Chevy and GMC PU trucks many years back. I remember that it was initially the 350 CID V8 diesel but it didn't go over very good, as it had a lot of problems.
Never the less, I wouldn't expect the Cummins spawned V8 diesel to have those early GM diesel problems.
I'm really looking forward to some positive news about this Cummins offering for Dodge.
Anyone here have any new info. on whats going on with this?
When Chrysler went through the bankruptcy, the whole project was put on "hold", but after the bankruptcy, I remember reading here on the forum via a Pickups.com article that Cummins and Chrysler were back together again on this small V8 diesel project.
This could be a great option for the 1/2 ton Dodge Ram line.
GM used to offer a diesel option for their 1/2 ton Chevy and GMC PU trucks many years back. I remember that it was initially the 350 CID V8 diesel but it didn't go over very good, as it had a lot of problems.
Never the less, I wouldn't expect the Cummins spawned V8 diesel to have those early GM diesel problems.
I'm really looking forward to some positive news about this Cummins offering for Dodge.
10-07-2010, 03:54 PM
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That's about the only thing that would bring me back to the dealer.
I really don't need all the power and weight I have now, but a gas engine won't cut it, either. I need something in between.
I really don't need all the power and weight I have now, but a gas engine won't cut it, either. I need something in between.
10-07-2010, 04:33 PM
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Good luck with that.
8 is for showing off, a 4 would make a 1/2 ton a serious value.....
But it will never sell...........BECAUSE THEY AIN'T SMART ENOUGH TO MAKE IT.
There, I feel better............
8 is for showing off, a 4 would make a 1/2 ton a serious value.....
But it will never sell...........BECAUSE THEY AIN'T SMART ENOUGH TO MAKE IT.
There, I feel better............
10-07-2010, 06:51 PM
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Seems like since the price of diesel fuel increased right up there with gas a lot of diesel engine options were put on hold.
60% of passenger cars in Europe are diesel, many made by the US's big three.
60% of passenger cars in Europe are diesel, many made by the US's big three.
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10-07-2010, 09:20 PM
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Ford is coming out with the EcoBoost V6 in the F150. It's a turbo gasser V6 that is worth looking at. Supposed to make lots of power and have a high tow capacity as well.
10-08-2010, 04:34 AM
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My oldest is turning 15 in December, and he sure isn't going to be driving a gasser. I'm already on the lookout for the next truck ...... I just hope the wife doesn't find out.
Or I "could" upgrade her with a Laramie and give her truck to the boy ...... hmmmmm.
Kris
Or I "could" upgrade her with a Laramie and give her truck to the boy ...... hmmmmm.
Kris
10-08-2010, 10:42 AM
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whats the deal with europe and other countries having diesel passenger cars and we are just now getting to it.. kinda like they have diesel ford rangers ect.. y dont we have that option when we buy a smaller truck..
10-08-2010, 12:47 PM
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1. Fuel prices are 3 times as high as the states minimum - so efficiency/$ counts more
2. The diesel engine is normally the same price (or thereabouts) as the gas engine, making the efficiency of the diesel an easy choice for most ... can you imagine how many truck owners would be diesel if they didn't have to pay for the $8000 option?
10-08-2010, 03:48 PM
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We had always been ahead of overseas with our emission requirements for Diesels, in 2006 when they caught up to us, instead of allowing companies to sell a world car, they changed OUR emissions to screw up the works.
10-08-2010, 06:40 PM
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You have backwards, Europe's emission requirements for both gassers and diesels are more stringent than ours and always have been a few steps ahead.
The reason we don't have diesel passenger cars in the US is because they couldn't meet emissions requirements until ultra low sulfur diesel was required in 2007.
Europe has had ULSD for over a decade.
By the time ULSD was available in the US diesel prices increased and the economy started going in the crapper along with the auto manufacturers.
At this point they're struggling to survive let alone introduce new options.
The reason we don't have diesel passenger cars in the US is because they couldn't meet emissions requirements until ultra low sulfur diesel was required in 2007.
Europe has had ULSD for over a decade.
By the time ULSD was available in the US diesel prices increased and the economy started going in the crapper along with the auto manufacturers.
At this point they're struggling to survive let alone introduce new options.
10-09-2010, 01:55 AM
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You have backwards, Europe's emission requirements for both gassers and diesels are more stringent than ours and always have been a few steps ahead.
The reason we don't have diesel passenger cars in the US is because they couldn't meet emissions requirements until ultra low sulfur diesel was required in 2007.
Europe has had ULSD for over a decade.
By the time ULSD was available in the US diesel prices increased and the economy started going in the crapper along with the auto manufacturers.
At this point they're struggling to survive let alone introduce new options.
The reason we don't have diesel passenger cars in the US is because they couldn't meet emissions requirements until ultra low sulfur diesel was required in 2007.
Europe has had ULSD for over a decade.
By the time ULSD was available in the US diesel prices increased and the economy started going in the crapper along with the auto manufacturers.
At this point they're struggling to survive let alone introduce new options.
ULSD in Europe is 6ppm, versus ours being 15ppm. They are really big into low emissions over there, to the point that they'll charge you for high penalties for what we would consider passing emissions.
I work with Brits here in Iraq, and they have told me CARB's crazy standards couldn't hold a candle to their emissions standards. They measure everything; particles, CO/CO2, NOX, and anything and everything that comes from the tailpipe .... even on the gas engines.
Kris
