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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bentwings
I got one about 4 x 6 inches and about 1 1/2 thick
Whoa! I did some searching around for these things and a 4x6x1.5 magnet is huge! Must be like 700 lbs. pulling force!
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Geico266
There was a band in the 60's called Rare Earth. Does that count?
Too old for me...
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 10:46 PM
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Yeah, these magnets are STRONG. I get them at work when I repair a certain piece of equipment, they are used as a frictionless bearing. Mine are 3inches in diameter, round, and have a 11/2 inch center.

They are so strong if you put them on metal you WILL NOT pull them straight off, you have to slide them off the edge. I have to put it on my oil filter after I have installed it because you cant work the filter into place without it sticking to something. I dont know how much they will lift, but it would be well over a hundred pounds.

Might be fun to tie a couple of them onto a rope and "go fishing" with them at the local fishing bridge.........
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Ph4tty
If you have an old hard drive sitting around it'll have some powerfull magnets in it I dunno how they'd compare to these rare earth magnets =\
Yup! Those ARE "Rare Earth" magnets... just flat, kidney shaped ones...Brittle suckers too! Neodymium IS a "rare earth" element.
Take a look at THIS... http://www.unitednuclear.com/magnets.htm
Take note of the warnings about their BIG magnets.. (broken ARMS????)
They say they have their engineers pack the really big ones because their shipping/receiving people won't touch them.. Now I guess we know why the caution tag was in the bottom of BENTWINGS magnet box

One thing about rare earth magnets, they have a really low Curie Point. That is the temperature at which the magnetism "goes away" . If I remember correctly, above 50degC is getting close to their Curie Point range... Lube oil runs hotter than that...

K.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 10:41 AM
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Here's a source I've used for these magnets before, cheap and fun to play with.
http://www.forcefieldmagnets.com/cat...hp?cPath=23_37
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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http://www.wondermagnet.com/

Bought a bunch from them, and they're only 30 min from me in Ft Collins, CO.

I have these things all over the place.

FWIW, "Rare Earth" and "neodymium-Iron-boron (NdFeB)" are used interchangeably, with the latter being the proper name for the actual
element(s).

jh
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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wcbcruzr,They are used to remove metal filings from powder. And that they do very well.
Originally I put tear off plastic sheets on them so you could easily get the filings off, but we found that it is easier to just take a shop towel and wipe them off over the edges. Filings don't have much mass so they don't stick as tight as solid steel.
We keep these in a big wood box untill they are ready to be installed on the machine. Fortunately the machines are all stainless steel so there is no sticking. We even have to be carefuly around the computers. I don't know what would happen to a hard drive if it got too close but it couldn't be good.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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You should be more careful with them around CRT's. They will magnetize the screen and you'll have a hard time getting the colors right after that. I have a degauser but most people don't know to use one and would trash the CRT.

I saw plans to build a wind generator with these magnets. The site said to be VERY careful not to get your fingers between 2 of them since it would smash them badly. They also have a tendency to fly off toward the nearest piece of iron or steel and will smash whatever is in between.

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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 07:18 AM
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If you've got enough shavings in your oil to need a magnet stuck to your filter, you need to quit playing with magnets and get your truck fixed.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BearKiller

One place to buy Rare Earth magnets is, of all places, woodworking supply stores, such as Hartville Tool, Woodcraft, Rocklers, and the like.

www.hartvilletool.com

They are so strong that they are dangerous.

I put two large ones on my front bumper, in order to save fuel by "drafting" other trucks.

I just get close and let the magnets, and the other guy's truck, do all the work.

Also, I find all sorts of nails, screw-drivers, wrenches, etc. hanging on them.

I really doubt your gaining anything by doing that. You'd probably have to be a foot or less away from them in order for the magnets to have any pull. Then, next thing you know your stuck to the car in front of you.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by charliez
If you've got enough shavings in your oil to need a magnet stuck to your filter, you need to quit playing with magnets and get your truck fixed.
I agree but there is always a minor amount of wear in any engine. If it frees up space on the oil filter media with simple cheap magnet what can be the harm?
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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I really doubt your gaining anything by doing that. You'd probably have to be a foot or less away from them in order for the magnets to have any pull. Then, next thing you know your stuck to the car in front of you.
Come on!!! You took that post seriously. It was obviously a joke. And a funny one at that. Lighten up a bit
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 08:27 AM
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Oh. lol
Well, stupid people surprise me everyday on some of these websites. I could totally see someone doing that.
...or at least put them on the sides for better cornering.
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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You need to pack a couple of the larger ones into a set of sidesteps / nerf bars for your truck. Those morons who enjoy whacking their car doors into other people's vehicles would certainly be surprised .

Chris
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GO 4LO
You need to pack a couple of the larger ones into a set of sidesteps / nerf bars for your truck. Those morons who enjoy whacking their car doors into other people's vehicles would certainly be surprised .

Chris

ha ha
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