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Sublimize23 10-10-2005 09:42 PM

Looking to get a diesel truck..
 
Hi all, new here. In about a year or so, I'll be looking to buy a full-size diesel truck, and I have a couple questions.
1) The only thing I have to tow is a trailer that holds 3 dirt bikes, gear, etc. I've always loved trucks, and I am mostly going to use it as a daily driver, am I crazy?
2) I plan on getting a dually, because I love the way they look, and they have a much stronger rear end. is there anything I should know about?daily challenges, etc
3) I'm also looking at 1999-2000 Ford F-350's (yes, I admit it, I'm a Ford man..), what are the advantages of the ram with the cummins over the powerstroke?
4) what kind of highway MPG can I expect? for those in the DelMarVA region, what are you currently paying for diesel? one thing I like about diesel is that the price rarely fluctuates.
5) I've heard a lot about fuel gelling. what is done to prevent this? what happens when your fuel gels? what do you do when it happens? I'll be going to college in southern VA next fall, and that's when I plan on buying the truck. it doesn't get too cold down there, but there is the occasional snow.
6) I've been driving 5 spd for a while, and I'd like to keep it that way. Is there anything I should know about clutch/transmission wise? I've driven a few F-350's and chevy 3500's ( [yuk] ), but they were all auto.
7) finally, my budget is about $13,000, what year/model ram do you think I'd be able to afford? I'd like a laramie if possible.
thank you very much, and I eagerly await your reponses, and I will continue my own research.

drew03 10-10-2005 09:52 PM

1. Mine is primarily a daily driver,2.i would not recomend a dually unless you absolutly need it. 3. I have to admit i am also a ford man, around here the dodge dealers are willing to make a better deal. The dodges get better mileage than the fords. The cummins also will last longer 4. highway mpg i would say 20+ 5. The are fuel treatments to prevent gelling. 6. i would say standard is my choice over auto. 7. my girlfriend just bought a 01 w/ 60,000k for 16,000$
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Sublimize23 10-10-2005 10:04 PM

thanks for your response. I have my heart set on a dually, but that doesn't mean I don't like singles too. any reasons why you wouldn't reccomend a dually? I'll take them into consideration, but I really love the dually.

Sublimize23 10-10-2005 10:07 PM

thought of antoher question. what kind of police attention do you guys normally recieve driving trucks? I'm coming from a 2005 scion xB
I'm tired of getting pulled over and followed for nothing. I'd like my next vehicle to not attract so much attention.
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drew03 10-10-2005 10:11 PM

its more of a hassle to go with oversized tires because you have to worry about clearence on the rear, and that is two more tires that you have to buy. I agree they do look nice, but I am glad i went with what i have. However if you were planning on doing some heavy towing i would say to go with a dually.

drew03 10-10-2005 10:13 PM

Knock on wood i have never been pulled over in my truck.

Sublimize23 10-10-2005 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by drew03
its more of a hassle to go with oversized tires because you have to worry about clearence on the rear, and that is two more tires that you have to buy. I agree they do look nice, but I am glad i went with what i have. However if you were planning on doing some heavy towing i would say to go with a dually.

I'm not really planning on it, but the possibility is always there I guess. I'd rather have it and not need it than to need it and not have it :D

drew03 10-10-2005 10:16 PM

yeah get what you want and you will be happy.

Sublimize23 10-10-2005 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by drew03
Knock on wood i have never been pulled over in my truck.

good to know... I speed occasionally just like anyone else.. just so happens I appearently fit a certain profile. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by drew03
yeah get what you want and you will be happy.

Thanks for your advice. I appreciate it.

Asher 10-10-2005 10:20 PM

If you are going from that to a dually, then you should start practising now. take two poles about 36" long and tape them to the back of your current ride sticking out on each side ;) . That should get you use to having the with of a dually. :)

Keep it stock looking and don't add any colored headlights (cop magnets).

CASMOKIN 10-10-2005 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by drew03
its more of a hassle to go with oversized tires because you have to worry about clearence on the rear, and that is two more tires that you have to buy. I agree they do look nice, but I am glad i went with what i have. However if you were planning on doing some heavy towing i would say to go with a dually.

Coming from a guy who had 9 inches of lift on a dually, its a pain in the a$$, never again. Tires cost toooooo much [yuk]

drew03 10-10-2005 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by Asher
If you are going from that to a dually, then you should start practising now. take two poles about 36" long and tape them to the back of your current ride sticking out on each side ;) . That should get you use to having the with of a dually. :)

Keep it stock looking and don't add any colored headlights (cop magnets).

[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

Sublimize23 10-10-2005 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by Asher
If you are going from that to a dually, then you should start practising now. take two poles about 36" long and tape them to the back of your current ride sticking out on each side ;) . That should get you use to having the with of a dually. :)

Keep it stock looking and don't add any colored headlights (cop magnets).

I've never actually been pulled over for the headlights, lol. I used to run parts for this summer job at a body shop I worked at, and I drove a newer chevy 3500 dually all day. I can handle it just fine. :cool: I will miss parking in tight parking spaces though. how do you guys handle parallel parking?

drew03 10-10-2005 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by Sublimize23
I've never actually been pulled over for the headlights, lol. I used to run parts for this summer job at a body shop I worked at, and I drove a newer chevy 3500 dually all day. I can handle it just fine. :cool: I will miss parking in tight parking spaces though. how do you guys handle parallel parking?

2 spaces [laugh]

Sublimize23 10-10-2005 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by drew03
2 spaces [laugh]

haha! do the rams have an 8ft bed like the F-series?

drew03 10-10-2005 10:42 PM

mine doesn't but i could have got one.

phox_mulder 10-10-2005 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by Sublimize23
thought of antoher question. what kind of police attention do you guys normally recieve driving trucks?

There's a couple guys around here that are constantly being "harrassed" by the police for lift violations, they are well within specs, in fact have the same height I do, I have never had to deal with them, but carry a copy of the Utah lift laws in my glove box, just in case.


Originally Posted by Sublimize23
I will miss parking in tight parking spaces though. how do you guys handle parallel parking?

If you lift it just right, the rear bumper clears the hood, so you back up till the tires contact the grill,
then pull forward till the front tires do the same to the trunk.
Any rubber marks come off with a wipe of a paper towel. [laugh]


phox

Sublimize23 10-10-2005 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by phox_mulder
There's a couple guys around here that are constantly being "harrassed" by the police for lift violations, they are well within specs, in fact have the same height I do, I have never had to deal with them, but carry a copy of the Utah lift laws in my glove box, just in case.


If you lift it just right, the rear bumper clears the hood, so you back up till the tires contact the grill,
then pull forward till the front tires do the same to the trunk.
Any rubber marks come off with a wipe of a paper towel. [laugh]


phox

LOL! I'm a senior in high school, and unfortunately, most people my age have no idea how to drive. someone scraped the side of the xB in the parking lot, and someone else tapped into it backing up. not to mention vandalism i've recieved... but that's another story.

displacedtexan 10-10-2005 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by Sublimize23
haha! do the rams have an 8ft bed like the F-series?

Yeah, only it's better, cause it's on a Dodge...

The beds are either like 6'6" or 8'...

Sublimize23 10-10-2005 11:23 PM

one more question. I'm hearing about "VP44" failures. I'm assuming it'ss ome kind of pump on the engine? could someone clarify?

drew03 10-10-2005 11:36 PM

i am not real sure, if it is not a problem with a 3rd gen then i don't really pay attention. you might try to do a search on it.

displacedtexan 10-11-2005 07:58 AM

It's the injection pump on the seccond gen 24v... They are somewhat trouble prone, seems to be luck of the draw, some top 200000 with theirs fine, some replace 3 before 100000... Like drew said, if you search it you will find LOTS of reading, VP-44, the Bosch injection pump.

96_12V 10-11-2005 10:59 AM

Dullies are much more difficult to drive in snow. It;s the tire contact area factor.

Wow, you drive a new Scion in high school, here's what I drove back then:
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sparky3008 10-11-2005 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Sublimize23
Hi all, new here. In about a year or so, I'll be looking to buy a full-size diesel truck, and I have a couple questions.
1) The only thing I have to tow is a trailer that holds 3 dirt bikes, gear, etc. I've always loved trucks, and I am mostly going to use it as a daily driver, am I crazy?
This is a personal choice and I as you don't need a full size medium duty truck I wanted one...

2) I plan on getting a dually, because I love the way they look, and they have a much stronger rear end. is there anything I should know about?daily challenges, etc

Dully are many time bought by people who really don't know anything about them. The dually is actually rated at less weight that the single 3500. The reason being no suspension or brakes etc were changed and with the addition of the two tires that counts towards the overall weight. Plus duallys are really to stabilize heavy trailers so your truck isn't being manhandled by what you tow. If you are just pulling a few motorcycle a dually is unnecessary. Also as some have stated finding parking for a dually is a pain and driving one takes skill as well. Not worth it in my opinion.

3) I'm also looking at 1999-2000 Ford F-350's (yes, I admit it, I'm a Ford man..), what are the advantages of the ram with the cummins over the powerstroke?

With the money you are talking about you are looking at a 7.3 and an older 12v cummins most likely. I can only speak for the 7.3's as I used them a lot for many years. When international put the turbo's on them they became a much more reliable engine as before without they would build too much compression underload and crack heads. My brother-n-law had an older 7.3 and now has a 2nd gen 24v cummins and was the best move he ever made. Comparing the 2 in my opinion the cummins is a real truck engine and the 7.3 is a gas block turned diesel no comparison...

4) what kind of highway MPG can I expect? for those in the DelMarVA region, what are you currently paying for diesel? one thing I like about diesel is that the price rarely fluctuates.

I am in Maryland and fuel goes between being below 87 to inbetween 87 and 89. The only way to compare would be to get the power of my 03 diesel I would have had to buy the V10 which gas mpg is no comparison and a no brainer.

5) I've heard a lot about fuel gelling. what is done to prevent this? what happens when your fuel gels? what do you do when it happens? I'll be going to college in southern VA next fall, and that's when I plan on buying the truck. it doesn't get too cold down there, but there is the occasional snow.

In areas where it gets cold the fuel has an additive added automatically as the seasons change. I have always driven diesels in Maryland and have never added any anti-gel other than what is in the fuel already. They do sell anti-gel additives that you can add to this if you wish. If the fuel gels it becomes like jello and will no go through your injectors and such. I have never had a problem...

6) I've been driving 5 spd for a while, and I'd like to keep it that way. Is there anything I should know about clutch/transmission wise? I've driven a few F-350's and chevy 3500's ( [yuk] ), but they were all auto.

If you get a Dodge with the 6 speed you should have very little problems. That transmission is bullet proof and if the person before you raged it I would say replace clutch and that thing will last a long time.

7) finally, my budget is about $13,000, what year/model ram do you think I'd be able to afford? I'd like a laramie if possible.
thank you very much, and I eagerly await your reponses, and I will continue my own research.

VP44 is after the lift pump. The lift pump takes fuel from the tank and sends it low pressure to the vp44. This pressurizes the fuel and sends it to the injectors. Many times what happens is the lift pump fails starving the vp44 and the vp44 burns itself up as it uses excess fuel to cool itself... (I am new to this and could be wrong but is what I understand about it).

Sublimize23 10-11-2005 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by sparky3008
VP44 is after the lift pump. The lift pump takes fuel from the tank and sends it low pressure to the vp44. This pressurizes the fuel and sends it to the injectors. Many times what happens is the lift pump fails starving the vp44 and the vp44 burns itself up as it uses excess fuel to cool itself... (I am new to this and could be wrong but is what I understand about it).

cool, thanks for clarifying. what kind of fuel pressures do these trucks run? I'm used to working on small-block Fords and 4 cylinders. [whistle]

sparky3008 10-11-2005 02:22 PM

This is not written in stone as with modifications and such you will get different readings. These are one guys readings, 16 idle, 14 cruise, and 10 WOT. As long as the fuel pressure doesn't go below 8.
I have seen some mention numbers as high as 20.


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