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SOhappy 12-10-2012 02:15 PM

Ford to offer 5-cyl diesel in the E-series replacement
 
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2012...n=awdailydrive

I still don't get the reason they're not going to offer the engine in an F-150 (last paragraph). Maybe they think the V6 Ego-Boost is good enough for the high mpg crowd.

pronstar 12-10-2012 02:24 PM

According to the article:
It's unlikely that the engine would be used in the F-150 light-duty pickup, as its power and torque ratings are below the gasoline engines used on the truck. Also, adding a diesel and its exhaust treatment system adds significant cost to the product.

Less power for greater cost likely won't woo too many buyers, methinks.

SIXSLUG 12-10-2012 05:38 PM

I cannot wrap my head around their line of thinking, burn more fuel but pollute less????? How does this work.

I also read an article that the hamburger joints in SoCal are causing more pollution and particulate in the air than automobiles, according to the study done by UCLA, IIRC.....

I would bet an MB 3.0 5 cylinder turbo would work pretty nicely in an older F-150.....just saying.

klx650a2 12-10-2012 06:46 PM

A friend has the ego boost in his f150. 12 mpg is all he is getting in town. Its a far cry from the 20+ they are claiming. I drove it and its powerful, but horrible on fuel and he never gets anywhere close to the claimed mpg.

NE frmhnd 12-10-2012 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by klx650a2 (Post 3151959)
A friend has the ego boost in his f150. 12 mpg is all he is getting in town. Its a far cry from the 20+ they are claiming. I drove it and its powerful, but horrible on fuel and he never gets anywhere close to the claimed mpg.

Eepa is investigating Ford's fuel mileage claims because Consumer Reports told them they are getting 10 mpg under what the new C-max and Focus hybrids are showing for fuel mileage.

SOhappy 12-12-2012 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by pronstar (Post 3151923)
According to the article:
It's unlikely that the engine would be used in the F-150 light-duty pickup, as its power and torque ratings are below the gasoline engines used on the truck. Also, adding a diesel and its exhaust treatment system adds significant cost to the product.

Less power for greater cost likely won't woo too many buyers, methinks.

Yeah, but 197 hp and 347 lb-ft of torque is roughly what the 1st gen CTDs had under the hood (160/400), and nobody was complaining then. I guess it's all perspective.

Grit Dog 12-12-2012 03:04 PM

That's the perfect amount of power for a 1/2ton commuter truck that does light towing. (Not for me, but great for alot of people/companies.) It could be a huge fleet sales truck if it got a real world 25mpg or close to it.
Even my 2011 F150, 5.0, started out getting 17-18 commuting, 20 straight highway. Now after 30k mi and working the p!ss out of it for about 4 months of it's life, the engine is starting to wear out, slightly. It's not as fast as it was when new and the mileage has dropped over 2mpg for the same conditions. If it were a small diesel it wouldn't even be broke in yet, whether I worked the truck hard or not.

jstone44720 12-12-2012 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by scot pa (Post 3151995)
Eepa is investigating Ford's fuel mileage claims because Consumer Reports told them they are getting 10 mpg under what the new C-max and Focus hybrids are showing for fuel mileage.

Isn't the EPA the group that does the estimating? "The new Fusion gets an EPA estimated XX MPG city and XX highway." What gives?

infidel 12-12-2012 06:13 PM

Since it's Ford I imagine this 5 cylinder engine is a V block right?

rockcrawler304 12-12-2012 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by infidel (Post 3152444)
Since it's Ford I imagine this 5 cylinder engine is a V block right?

[laugh][laugh][laugh]
I see what you did there!

pronstar 12-12-2012 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by jstone44720 (Post 3152417)
Isn't the EPA the group that does the estimating? "The new Fusion gets an EPA estimated XX MPG city and XX highway." What gives?

Carmakers test their own vehicles based on strict EPA protocol.

It's not good when the EPA catches them fudging figures, as we've seen with the recent Hyundai fiasco...which is far from being over for Hyundai.

SIXSLUG 12-12-2012 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by SOhappy (Post 3152404)
Yeah, but 197 hp and 347 lb-ft of torque is roughly what the 1st gen CTDs had under the hood (160/400), and nobody was complaining then. I guess it's all perspective.

Good point.

NE frmhnd 12-12-2012 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by pronstar (Post 3152498)
Carmakers test their own vehicles based on strict EPA protocol.

It's not good when the EPA catches them fudging figures, as we've seen with the recent Hyundai fiasco...which is far from being over for Hyundai.

Kia got caught too.

A few years ago Government Motors fuel numbers all jumped. I think there are ways you can adjust little things that make a big change in the results once run through the formula.

Europe actually tests real vehicles, on real highways.

bz2500 01-04-2013 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by SOhappy (Post 3151922)
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2012...n=awdailydrive

I still don't get the reason they're not going to offer the engine in an F-150 (last paragraph). Maybe they think the V6 Ego-Boost is good enough for the high mpg crowd.

I have the ford ranger with the same engine, and i must say its a good engine for the Ranger, but put it in anything larger than that the engine will struggle..

ColinP 01-04-2013 12:28 PM

that is an awesome van! im so glad its coming here to the US.


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