A bed mounted auxilary tank with the pump on a switch would be the ultimate! When you need to fill up, just fill 1/4 of the way with bio then the rest at the pump! 8)

Dodgedude361 - I'm sure there is some within reasonable range of you. Check here.

Contact
Phone Blend
Fred M. Schildwachter & Sons, Inc.
1400 Ferris Place
Bronx, NY 10461 David C. Schildwachter, Sr. 800-642-3646 B20

NOCO Energy Corp
2440 Sheridan Dr
Tonawanda, NY 14150 Edward Matikainen, Jim Korczykowski 716-773-8693 B2 & up

UMR Energy Systems
14 Van Street
Staten Island, NY 10310
718-720-6646 B20-B100

 

Just for everyone's info. I know in Illinois, you can get on the Illinois Soybean Producer Association's website www.ilsoy.org and get a list of all biodiesel suppliers by county. It also is the National Biodiesel Board site. I'm sure other States have something similar. Hope this helps anyone interested.

 

Did a little more digging on the www.ilsoy.org site and they actually have a national map and a list of suppliers. There's a real heavy concentration of them in the Midwest ;D, Let's see, that's were most of the soybean's are grown. Do you think there's a connection? :- Well it look's like it's spreading so hopefully it will also come down in price and become more readily available.

 

I'm guessing that they're using biodiesel.org's distributor list, it's been the main one for a long time. Here's where you guys need to go to find a list of local distributors and retailers.
http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/guide/

 

I ran some biodiesel in my boat and liked it. I had a ratio of about 30%. The engine ran with no noticable difference except the smell of the exhaust. I also ran some of the mix through a diesel heater and at the end of the season left it sitting for eight months or so with no use. At the next startup of the heater there was a varnish like coating that clogged the system and was a pain to clean out. It seems like, maybe, it is not a good idea to leave the bio fuel sitting for a long period. Has anyone else noticed this?
Also I was wondering, in the overall calculation about how much fuel we are actually saving by using the bio. How much diesel fuel does it take to produce a gallon of bio? The farmers must use water that's pumped, tractors to tend the land, harvesting equipment, trucks, etc. Just wondering how many gallons of diesel are needed to produce a gallon of bio. Anyone know? I'm wondering if we are actually saving or not.
Wetspirit

 

Biodiesel is a very good solvent - it will clean out your fuel system in higher blends. Sounds like you put some bio in an engine that hadn't been running it long and let it sit. The bio cleaned off all the dino diesel gunk that was in your system and clogged it up. This happens when using dino on trucks with a few hundred k miles....which is why you carry an extra fuel filter with ya. Granted this is only with high blends of bio and old/dirty engines/tanks.

To be short - yes bio has a very good overall environmental and economic impact. Biodiesel isn't always directly sourced from farmers. At least half of bio is made from recycled/used cooking oil. I know one manufacturer exclusively takes all the oil from a local potato chip factory, because they are so regular/methodical with their oil use and it's very clean.

 

Not much luck on any local sourcing. Looks like I will have to have drums shipped in if I decide to do it. Best price I found so far is about $3.40 per gallon for b100. At a 20% mix it looks like it will add about $1200.00 to my annual fuel bill. I did find a place that is opening a retail outlet near Nashville. I make it up there 3 or 4 times per year so I may be able to use it some then. Going to keep digging and see if I can find a cheaper source.

If I calculated correctly it will add about 50 cents per gallon my total price.

 

Is that $3.40/gal delivered? Thats pretty rough. There is already a place near nashville that you can get drums of b100. Dunno how far you are from Aiken, sc, but united energy down there in aiken has good prices as well.

 

Notes are at work but the price I quoted was for a 55 gallon drum from Aiken and included around $80.00 for shipping. World energy wanted $150 for delivery. Called the place in Nashville, said they were not shipping drums and would only sell from a retail location. If I could talk them into shipping a 55 gallon drum it would probably be reasonable. Going to call them back Monday and ask again.

Called lots of co-op's, all said they had no plans to carry this product. Also called the local oil distributors. Several had at least heard of it and 1 said they would carry it in the future if a demand developed. I suggested that they get ahead of the curve and create the demand instead of waiting for it.

 

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Just found out there's a public B20 pump 15 min from my house and the current price is only about $.18 more than what I pay locally for #2. Looks like I'm becoming part of the solution.
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You lucky SOB, where do you live?

 

oh , they have good stuff. Jim burke has a tdi he runs on straight veg oil, you should ask to see his setup sometime, it's crazy.

 

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I ran some biodiesel in my boat and liked it. I had a ratio of about 30%. The engine ran with no noticable difference except the smell of the exhaust. I also ran some of the mix through a diesel heater and at the end of the season left it sitting for eight months or so with no use. At the next startup of the heater there was a varnish like coating that clogged the system and was a pain to clean out. It seems like, maybe, it is not a good idea to leave the bio fuel sitting for a long period. Has anyone else noticed this?
Also I was wondering, in the overall calculation about how much fuel we are actually saving by using the bio. How much diesel fuel does it take to produce a gallon of bio? The farmers must use water that's pumped, tractors to tend the land, harvesting equipment, trucks, etc. Just wondering how many gallons of diesel are needed to produce a gallon of bio. Anyone know? I'm wondering if we are actually saving or not.
Wetspirit
Wetspirit--biodiesel is significantly more energy efficient to produce, I just read a comparison of several fuels. I'll get and post the info tomorrow. I was there at the "media event" at Fleming Oil, Interesting to see this thread.
FWIW, I've been running B50 since my truck was new, drives like a dream, smells like a steakhouse.

Burn the bean boys!!! It's heartening to see dieselheads interested in this stuff. Let's keep our fuel money here.
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burn up the beans

 

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Also I was wondering, in the overall calculation about how much fuel we are actually saving by using the bio. How much diesel fuel does it take to produce a gallon of bio? The farmers must use water that's pumped, tractors to tend the land, harvesting equipment, trucks, etc. Just wondering how many gallons of diesel are needed to produce a gallon of bio. Anyone know? I'm wondering if we are actually saving or not.
Wetspirit
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Wetspirit--I found that info. It comes from a 1998 report sponsored by the Dept of Energy and USDA. The following numbers represent how many net units of a particular fuel are produced per unit of fossil fuel input:

Gasoline: 0.74 26% net loss
Ethanol: 1.34 34% net gain
Petro diesel: 0.83 17% net loss
20% biodiesel 0.98 2% net loss
100% biodiesel 3.20 220% net gain

This is for virgin soy bio only. Recycled cooking oil will result in a far higher net gain, as will oils manufactured in newer biodiesel plants, which are supposedly much more efficient.

Another interesting footnote: soy produces 345 lbs/acre of oil, while rapeseed/canola produce 915 lbs/acre, and the oil palm produces a whopping 4,585 lbs/acre! My conclusion is that as demand increases, so will the efficiency of production. We'll see I guess. Hope this answers your question. Bryan

 

Anybody know if biodiesel is sold anywhere in Colorado? I haven't seen it for sale in the western part of the state where I live.