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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 02:47 AM
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First NH biodiesel pump opens

First Retail Biodiesel Pump in New Hampshire Opens

Fleming Oil Company and Global E Industries team up to offer alternative fuel



Trucking fleets, school districts and diesel vehicle owners in southern New Hampshire and Vermont now have a convenient local source of biodiesel, a renewable vegetable oil-based fuel.

Fleming Oil Co. of Brattleboro, VT and Global E Industries of Cavendish, VT will hold the grand opening of New Hampshire's first retail biodiesel fueling station on Wednesday, December 3 at Fleming Oil's Shell station on Route 9 in West Chesterfield, NH.

"This is a significant step for Brattleboro and the surrounding region" said Paul Cameron, Executive Director of Brattleboro Climate Protection. "Greater availability of biodiesel will help make our air cleaner and reduce carbon dioxide emissions that cause global warming." The Town of Brattleboro has set a goal of reducing its carbon dioxide emissions by 10% by 2010.

Biodiesel can be used in any diesel engine with no modifications. The
fuel can be burned in its pure form (B-100) or blended with petroleum
diesel at any level - most commonly 20% (B-20).

The West Chesterfield pump will offer B-20, which can be used in the
coldest winter temperatures.

"Everybody wins with biodiesel", said Dave Bonta, owner of Global E
Industries. "It improves our air quality, makes us less dependent on
foreign oil, and helps our farmers by providing new sources of revenue for their crops."

Biodiesel, which is most commonly made from canola or soybean oil, burns much cleaner than standard diesel fuel. It significantly reduces emissions such as particulate matter, carbon monoxide, and carbon dioxide. It is nontoxic, biodegradable and essentially free of sulfur and aromatics. Biodiesel offers similar fuel economy, horsepower, and torque to petroleum diesel while providing superior lubricity. More than 350 major fleets use biodiesel nationwide.
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 09:38 AM
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And on the left coast, it was announced a week or so ago, we have a retailer planning on offering biodiesel in Bellingham, Washington. Now, there's a retailer just out in the county about 12 miles but I never get out that way. Good reports though. Soon, very soon, perhaps I'll be able to find out for myself. As I remember, the article mentioned something about the biodiesel was going to be more expensive than regular #2. Will have to see and get a sop reaction.

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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 09:54 AM
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Please keep us updated,I would like to know all the details of how it is doing in your truck, Thanks Rick
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 11:01 AM
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NWDave - yes 100% biodiesel is more expensive than #2. It also has no sulfur, tons more lubricity, higher cetane, sends no money to the middle east and rather to american farmers, and lastly reduces emissions. As for SOP difference, you won't feel any more power per say, but you will notice your truck runs/idles more smoothly, quietly, and with less smoke/stink. You gain a measurable lubricity enhancement in blends as low as b2 (2% biodiesel), but won't notice a real difference till you get to about b20. B20 is a great blend - you wont' experience any difference in the winter, and will notice SOP the benefits. Because I've been running low, I've run about b10-b15 in my new 04 cummins for the last 4 or 5 tanks. It runs beautifully, but I dont notice that much difference. Thats just fine with me though, since I know at least 10-15% of my fuel was american grown and renewable 8) I enjoy running it knowing I'm supporting american farmers and economy, and giving a symbolic middle finger to foreign oil consumption and the middle east
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 12:04 PM
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Re:First NH biodiesel pump opens

I'm running B20 in mine right now. Yes, I can confirm it does run quieter and smoother at idle with less smell. Yes, I do like the idea a lot of using a renewable source that is Made In America. It is a little tough to choke down the $.30 per gallon premium you have to pay for it around here, however.

I've started to think about "brewing" my own from waste vegetable oil. Anyone else done that yet?

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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 01:31 PM
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Man that's the opposite way of which I drive every bay but I may have to take a little trip out there just to try some!!

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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 01:41 PM
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I wish we could get a station in our neck of the woods. I don't want to pay more for fuel than anyone else but just think what would happen if the entire U.S. reduced it's imports by 20% overnight!

Now that we have 2 diesels in the household I have been thinking seriously about getting drums shipped to me. I always fill my wifes truck (keeps her from having to go to the dirty pumps and keeps my mind from worrying about her accidently putting in gas) so the convenience of doing it at home might just cover the additional cost.
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 01:43 PM
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Re:First NH biodiesel pump opens

BTW, not that I am untrusting or anything but is there anyway to verify what is coming out is really bio? I wouldn't put it past a shady operator to use dino and charge the extra money
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 02:28 PM
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trailblaze it will be a strong yellow to dark yellow/brown color, and even at b20 will probably smell a bit like cooking oil. Aside from that, anyone who would advertise it most likely is supplying it IMO...it takes someone who's into this kind of stuff to really know about biodiesel etc at this point... I agree with you on the 20% reduction. Every person burning biodiesel is helping to a degree.. Having drums delivered is nice, but you'll use it up quickly with two trucks, and sometimes delivery is very expensive.. If you have the yard for it, why not consider a 500 or 1000 gal tank? Once you get above 500 gals, the price drops considerably and companies like world energy will just send a tanker out to fill your tank... I know you can get b100 delivered that way, and believe they will deliver blends as well.
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 02:37 PM
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Re:First NH biodiesel pump opens

trailblazenyj-

You can tell by the way the engine runs. You'll notice a pretty dramitic difference in sound and idle quality within 1 mile of filling with B20 for the first time.

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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 03:28 PM
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Re:First NH biodiesel pump opens

yup, somehow forgot to mention that
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 05:08 PM
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Re:First NH biodiesel pump opens

Come to think of it, I've got a friend with an 03 who lives and works out near the other biodiesel retailer. I'm going to have to bug him and see what he thinks. I notice that the two people who mention quieter noise levels and smoother idles are an 03 and an 04. How about us NOISEY 01.5's : ? Yes, definitely sounds like a go ahead idea. The irony of this all is that when working, I work in an oil refinery, but they process Northern Slope and Canadian.

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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 05:14 PM
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Re:First NH biodiesel pump opens

we ran a tank of b20 in my friends 00 and it was definitely a tad quieter at idle and made less smoke - he has injectors and an EZ...
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 07:20 PM
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to my knowledge, bio doesn`t exist in my neck of the woods, is there a site which lists al bio outlets,i`d love to do my part to help out the U.S. farmer.
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 07:25 PM
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hmmm, don't think I could squeeze a tank in at the house but maybe I could at work. Thanks for the idea. Other thought with drums is that I could get a bed tank and keep it filled with 100 and try to use that to dilute dino, sort of a mix my own b20. That way I could get a lot farther down the road. There are just no bio stations near anywhere I travel.
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