Diesel Cars still the way to go??
06-07-2008, 06:27 PM
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I for one would love to have a diesel powered touring car or wagon. Not a economy box but a big car that you can take a family of four on a 2 week road trip.
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06-07-2008, 11:43 PM
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Keep telling yourself that and remind all your friends too! Keeo the prices of the diesel cars low so I can keep buying them! 
I consistently get 47-53 in mine and drive it like I stole it! Figure this out for me if you will.......
Gas engine @ $3.99 / 30 mpg = 13.3 cents per mile for fuel cost
Diesel engine @ $4.79 / 47 =10.1 cents per mile for fuel cost
Pretty simple math to me. Now......lets calculate scheduled maintenance!
Oil and filter change gasser w 5 qts. conventional motor ( manufacturer reccomended) oil is $20 if you do it yourself every 3000 miles = .0066 cents per mile.
Oil and filter change on my VW Jetta TDI w 5 qts. synthetic Mobil 1 $45 every 10,000 miles as reccomended by the manufacturer = .0045 cents per mile.
Again....seems pretty simple to me. Start adding in spark plugs and wires and such, and I'm gaining even more!
I consistently get 47-53 in mine and drive it like I stole it! Figure this out for me if you will.......Gas engine @ $3.99 / 30 mpg = 13.3 cents per mile for fuel cost
Diesel engine @ $4.79 / 47 =10.1 cents per mile for fuel cost
Pretty simple math to me. Now......lets calculate scheduled maintenance!
Oil and filter change gasser w 5 qts. conventional motor ( manufacturer reccomended) oil is $20 if you do it yourself every 3000 miles = .0066 cents per mile.
Oil and filter change on my VW Jetta TDI w 5 qts. synthetic Mobil 1 $45 every 10,000 miles as reccomended by the manufacturer = .0045 cents per mile.
Again....seems pretty simple to me. Start adding in spark plugs and wires and such, and I'm gaining even more!
A gas burner won't be more efficient than a diesel engine, it's the nature of the beast, just won't happen.
06-11-2008, 12:28 PM
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We need to let the European diesels over here... and quick. By the way, these things are old news. Both are from 2000/2001.
For example:
Audi A2 - Appears to be a crossover SUV... gets 78MPG.
NYT Article: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/27/bu...67efd0&ei=5070
Or the Volkswagon Lupo... supposedly getting over 100 mpg....
http://www.autoweb.com.au/cms/newsar...doc=vwg0006011
For example:
Audi A2 - Appears to be a crossover SUV... gets 78MPG.
NYT Article: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/27/bu...67efd0&ei=5070
Or the Volkswagon Lupo... supposedly getting over 100 mpg....
http://www.autoweb.com.au/cms/newsar...doc=vwg0006011
06-11-2008, 01:51 PM
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I used to have one of those.... a 1983 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Diesel. Don't laugh - that tank of a car would usually get better than 20MPG, and one long trip to northern Michigan we got close to 25MPG. Not bad for a heavy, full-size car packed with kids and stuff.
06-11-2008, 01:54 PM
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Europe doesn't want us to have their diesels - if we did, who would they sell all of their excess gasoline to?
The Global Economy
- you think emissions is the only reason the EPA tightened down so hard on light-duty and pickup truck diesels? They knew that fuel economy and longevity would go down. Better for Big Oil, Big Business, and the Global money machine.
I'll stop now before I get referred to some kind of political forum
The Global Economy
- you think emissions is the only reason the EPA tightened down so hard on light-duty and pickup truck diesels? They knew that fuel economy and longevity would go down. Better for Big Oil, Big Business, and the Global money machine. I'll stop now before I get referred to some kind of political forum
06-11-2008, 03:25 PM
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06-11-2008, 06:13 PM
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Europe doesn't want us to have their diesels - if we did, who would they sell all of their excess gasoline to?
The Global Economy - you think emissions is the only reason the EPA tightened down so hard on light-duty and pickup truck diesels? They knew that fuel economy and longevity would go down. Better for Big Oil, Big Business, and the Global money machine.
I'll stop now before I get referred to some kind of political forum
The Global Economy
- you think emissions is the only reason the EPA tightened down so hard on light-duty and pickup truck diesels? They knew that fuel economy and longevity would go down. Better for Big Oil, Big Business, and the Global money machine. I'll stop now before I get referred to some kind of political forum
Global economy causing the gas "shortage" my butt...
Just like oil companies only make .11 per gallon... after they put their vertically integrated profits into each stage, then give that amount on the final total... ***...
Oil shortage... no... more like... oil sitting around off the coast because they cant process it quick enough...
Shortage? I dont see any gas stations running out of fuel....
I dont buy any of the crap...
I do find the gas price vs. majority party in congress graph interesting though...
07-09-2008, 10:48 AM
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Bosch certainly thinks so. They are sponsoring a contest to win a new diesel car for a week. Hope it includes fuel. The catch is you have to live in Michigan, Illinois, Indiana or Ohio.
Enter here:
http://www.autoweek.com/section/diesel
Enter here:
http://www.autoweek.com/section/diesel
THANKS FOR THE LINK!!!!!!!
I WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will get some pics and info as soon as I know more! I never win this kind of stuff!!!!!!! Pinch me.......I must be dreaming!!!!!!!!
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