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Old May 29, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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Can I use heating oil from an underground tank?

I have an 05' CRD and my father has an in ground oil tank that has about 200 gallons of fuel in it that he wnats out. The tank is old and the fuel has been sitting in it for at least 8 years. Should I not use this at all or can it be filtered and treated so I can run it in my truck? Would I need to run a smaller micron fuel filter than stock? I have the pumping equipment that is hooked up to a 6 micron filter and water seperator, which I will be using to pump it out into a 55 gallon drum for treatment and storage.

I am not sure how to deal with this and am looking for good advice and info.
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Old May 29, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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I believe diesel can be stored for long periods but 8 years....that's old. The biggest worry would be algae. If any water could have gotten to the fuel, then the stuff could grow in there. The odds are 8 years is a good chance of it. I would not even think about it because of possible damage to injectors. Could get a sample and send it to Blackstone labs and just see. But the stuff in the bottom could be different from the top. Good luck.
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Old May 29, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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Well for starters... I think what you want to do is Illegal for road use...If it was usable... I've seen some nasty looking #2 and I don't think I would use it.
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Old May 29, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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If there's water in the tank, it'll be on the bottom of the tank and the diesel will be floating on the water. Just sample the tank to see where the waterline is and draw the diesel off the top being careful not to draw below the waterline. Then treat the diesel with a biocide before putting it in your tank.
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Old May 29, 2008 | 06:06 PM
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I know how you feel, my father has a tank in his house he is moving out of and it has at least 100 gallons in it. But after really thinking about it I realized it just wasn't worth the gamble. I know I would regret it a lot if I had any complications due to trying this fuel. Do you really want to roll the dice??? If so, good luck.
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Old May 29, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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Not legal, and really not worth the risk. It may relly mess up your common-rail system in the CRD liberty...
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Old May 30, 2008 | 09:31 AM
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As posted above, home heating oil is not taxed for road purposes and is dyed for that reason. You could be into a whole lot more problems than it was worth besides bad fuel if you get caught.
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Old May 30, 2008 | 10:14 AM
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What area are you in ?
I can put it to use , but you may also , most all of the issues can be address , algae / water , the heating oil is dyed red - can be used in off road equipment , you could sell it or trade for on road fuel , I am making bio diesel and have centrifuges & pump for cleaning , so if some one like me , could buy at a reduced rate [ take the tax out and pay for cleaning , just giving numbers for an example , .40 off of pump price tax , maybe .40 off for cleaning ] give you a dollar less per pump price .
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Old May 30, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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Stored underground is where it should be stored. The temperature is more stable. Just because it's underground doesn't mean there is anything wrong with it.

I ran a bunch of old heating oil through mine that was at least twenty and maybe thirty years old, we didn't know for sure but it was in an old tank and had not been used for a long time. No problems.

There may be water or algae in it so be careful. If you get it into a separate container before putting it into your tank you can see if it looks clear and clean. If so, just pour it in and be on your way.

Mine was way older than the red dye stuff and was better fuel than the current ULSD stuff with limited lubricity.


John
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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I just came back in from a month on the road, and in 3 states I seen DOT check points were they were ramdomly sampleing fuel looking for the red stuff. (Not worth the fine, or the IRS on your backside.) Oh the states were Virginia, on I-81, North Carolina on I-77 and Georgia on I-75.
If you can stay runnin local in a small town you might be safe with off road fuel but as I said, not worth the chance.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 08:23 AM
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huh! I just drove across country towing a two car goose neck and have had my truck for years and have never seen them stopping pickups.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 10:59 AM
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i would love to run that stuff through my vw.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 12:09 PM
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I will prob end up running it in my VW too.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Smasher
I will prob end up running it in my VW too.
the amount of crap i have run through the tank of that thing lol. i am amazed at what it can burn.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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A bit off the topic but you people with underground tanks, how much of an issue with the environmental people do you have with the property when you move?

Out here I had a friend that had 1000-gallon underground tank on his property, and when he sold the property they made remove it.

He had to have a company come out and dig out the tank and do a big environmental study on the earth around the tank.

They had to put in monitoring wells to check anything downstream.

The whole thing cost over $20,000.00 and this was back in the 80's.

Everything was fine but it still cost him a lot of headaches, Oh, the tank was there when he bought the property.
Sometimes it doesn’t pay to be honest, should have capped it off and said nothing
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