yeah, the class i went to in iowa city a few weekends back. Met the owner of blue chip performance. Purty nice guy. wouldnt it be something if we start getting performance boxes bases around bio

 

Performance boxes based on bio would just have slightly more retarded timing, but IMO will never happen. It's about as likely as the average cashier knowing what you're talking about when you ask about fuels.. I've asked cashiers at stations that sell biodiesel about it, and they don't even know what biodiesel is..

 

I seen on the biodiesel.org website that they have a contact name at the station for the Bio. I wonder if he would know anything more about it or if it's just the station manager's name listed on there?!

 

Typically those folks know about bio - they are usually listed because they are the people who pushed to get it carried there.. Usually it's the station owner or someone thats not typically there daily though.

Depends where you go though. I'm sure everyone at wacker oil would know about it - they are very active, even sponsored the TDICLUB's tdifest last year with b100 on site...

 

I seen that the Whacker Oil place is near Ann Arbor... that's not too far of a drive either!

I can't wait to fill up again so I know I have a full B20 tank. Right now it's about 2/3 B20, but I already don't see as much black smoke as I used too! More of a greyish smoke???

 

The greyish smoke is supposedly the bio cleaning up deposits and gunk, although it's mostly experienced when running higher blends. Usually it's gone after a tank or so.

If Wacker is close to you, I'd check it out. They have 50 cetane min Amoco premier, b100, or b20 blended with Premier. Talk about a station that has the good stuff!

 

Can you run B100 in the truck w/out any type of modifications? I could make the trip out for the good stuff! It's prolly only about 40 minutes or so away!

 

I'm sure you CAN but I am not sure that I would recommend it. Some members here might chime in that have done it, however it's always been my feeling that HPCR injection and b100 don't work that well together due to the wide variance in biodiesel's viscosity. I have run up to b50 in my truck and it ran great, however B20 is just about the best blend of good mpg, great lubricity/emissions, and not having to do anything to your truck to run it. It's a decent drive for me to get bio too, so I typically get 40 gals of b100 in my aux tank, fill the main tank to about 80%, and then flip the valve to blend up to b20.. Works out pretty well

 

Good deal... I'll just stick w/ the B20 blend for a couple tanks and see how everything is! It'd be nicer if the price would come down on it a bit! Since regular diesel is down to 1.99 in my area! Ohhh well... it's running good so far!


Tony

 

actually thats the point of biodiesel, is to get the viscosity the same as petro diesel. Which it is. The things that keep bio rom going main stream is the fog point. It will do it sooner than perto diesel. But can be treated the same way diesel is. Had a jar sit outside (low of 22) last night and it was a 80 b100 20 Diesel and she was clear as day. Another thing keeping it from main stream is the quality control o it. first off it can go from great fuel to bad fuel just in the manufacture process. too much or too little of Something and boom bad. Harder to trasport. And the shelf life of bio is pretty short. So it starts to decompose and what not in the tanks causing quality issues

 

The viscosity is not the same as dino diesel. If you look at the ASTM standard, the range of viscosity is much broader than that for #2 diesel. It's only really an issue with high pressure injection systems.. I ran b100 in my TDI for 35,000 miles straight with zero issues, and have run it in my IDI MB also with no problems. With what I've read about b100 and HPCR, I am sticking to b20.

 

I checked to see where that Wacker place was, it's about 55 miles from me! Anyhow, I called to get the price of Bio and they told me $2.32 -- Good price eh? Called a couple others 2.37/38 seems to be the norm for B20...

 

TPilaske you are lucky, they probably sell the best fuel in the country, bar none.

 

I accidentally ran B100 in my 02. The covers on the pumps were reversed . The B100 had B20 panels on the pump. It sure smelled nice going in and it smelled even better at the exhaust. I did not realize the stations mistake until I got my bill in the mail $3.30 per gallon . What the heck !. I went back to the owner of the station with my bill. He knew what had happened as I was not the only one. He was really upset at the pump mechanic. They did refund my $ for the difference between the B20 and B100 . It ran great! Also it ran very quiet for a 24 valve.

 

Pulled this link from another thread in the 24 valve section:

http://www.cummins.com/cmi/content....&index=3#Q6


Anything to be concerned about?


Tony