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Old 07-22-2005, 07:26 AM
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Running Waste Oil?

Hello,


I know that their is much debate over this, but I would like to study the affects of running a ratio of waste oil. How much could we use? How much filtering should be done? Pleas let me know what you all think.


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Old 07-22-2005, 10:45 AM
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i run..pm me
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Cummins says up to 5% is OK IF you don't have a catalytic converter.

I run 2 qts per tank when I have it and the weather is warm. I pour it from the drain pan into the gallon jugs through a screened funnel, then from the gallon jugs into quarts through one of those disposable paint filter funnels.

I have not noticed any driveabilty or smoke difference from this amount of oil in the fuel.
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When 1st got my truck I had 4 quarts of oil of different grades and manufacturers. I dumped them all in when I filled up and didn't notice any difference in power or smoke.
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Let me get this straight! You can dispose of old oil in the engine? Does this help anything or is it just another way to get rid of it?

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what about other oils besides motor oil? hydraulic oil, gear oil, etc.
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I would be reluctant to dump gear oil in there no matter how well it's been filtered. It typically has extreme pressure addtives in high concentrations, they will cause nasty deposits in the combustion chambers.
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I played with it to see just how much I could run ,and 3 gal per ful tank seems to be a good point to stop, I noticed that if i run more it starts to stink real bad out the tail pipe and makes a lot more smoke at low boost . but other that that i have seen no other ill FX
PS I only run it in my ve pump cuz i just dont trust the VP44
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Originally posted by dig'umz
Let me get this straight! You can dispose of old oil in the engine? Does this help anything or is it just another way to get rid of it?

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Any real benefits (not opinions) to running waste oil ? Can it be a replacement for Stanadyne and such?....that would save some bucks for other bombs !!!
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It will improve the lubricity of the fuel. It's 3 gallons of diesel you don't have to buy every oil change interval. And Cummins says it won't hurt anything if you don't use more than 5% by volume.
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so this would be bad for a stock 01 fuel system?
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No, but remember this has to be clean (no trash) waste oil. You want to have a clean drain pan (mine is one of those covered pans, I clean the top before I drain the engine). The oil coming out of the engine has been filtered by the oil filter and is clean, you want to minimize the amount of dirt you add to it. I only use my own oil and the oil out of the cars I maintain for family members - I know what kind of oil it is and where it came from. If you just go around collecting used oil you could end up with contaminated oil - stuff that has lots of dirt, or something nasty like brake fluid or coolant in it. I never use ATF, PS fluid, gear lube, or oil from the lawn mower, that goes to the auto parts store for recycling.
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I'm scared to run waste oil in my new 05, so I mix powerservice with a non-detergant 30 weight oil. You can find it at walmart for around 88 cents per quart. I tend to run 2 quarts per tank. I've also tried ashless 2-stroke oil too and did not notice any differerance.


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