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06-23-2008, 08:59 AM
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The Dem's say if we allow drilling off the coast and the ANWR it will do nothing to lower the cost of oil in the short term. All I can say is if they has allowed the drilling of the coast 10 years ago it those wells would be come on line about right now. Also if they make it easier to build new refineries the oil company's will have one less excuse not to build them.
At this time it looks like if Obama and a few more Dem's are elected our taxes will go up and when taxes go up so does the cost of everything we buy!
At this time it looks like if Obama and a few more Dem's are elected our taxes will go up and when taxes go up so does the cost of everything we buy!
06-23-2008, 10:26 AM
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If you really look at the history of how we got where we are today, you will find that this is not a partisan problem. Sure, the Dems have some very unfavorable policies and personal agendas, so do the republicans, Liberals, Conservatives and ever other group, etc. At the end of the day each group and memebers off each have all played a roll of digging this whole. Until we wake up and are able to get someone to "hear the people" and stopped the coruption and exploitation of our own citizens as well as others around the world, nothing will change. We will continue with our heads in the sand and like every other major civilization, we will be the end of our own demiss.
06-23-2008, 11:20 AM
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Other ways to get your point across, may work if it don't fall on deaf ears or a really fat bank account. Won't be flying my flag upside down but we the people are speakin and the politicians are dead locked. One side says drill, the other side says no way. The one side said, tax the big oil the other side said no way. Each one is to connected to the side they are trying to protect for their own benefit to worry about poor shlups like me and you......
06-23-2008, 11:35 AM
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06-23-2008, 12:06 PM
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Dang, you make over $250K/year? Well, at least fuel prices aren't hurting you. At least us peasants can look forward to a $1,000 reduction in our taxes.
06-23-2008, 12:52 PM
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IT IS NOT OUT OF DISRESPECT.....
IT IS TO SHOW DISTRESS....(SHIPS DO IT PRIOR TO SINKING)..IF YOU DON'T THINK WERE SINKING YOU BETTER WAKE UP..
IT WOULD BE AN ATTEMPT TO GET THE BUREAUCRATS ATTENTIONS THAT HAS SOLD OUT THIS GREAT COUNTRY.......
HOW LONG DO THINK THINGS WILL CONTINUE AT THE CURRENT AND SOON TO BE HIGHER FUEL PRICES / OUTSOURCING OF OUR JOBS..
AS FOR THIS POST TURNING POLITICAL HOW CAN YOU SEPARATE THE TWO AS IT IS POLITICS THAT GOT US WHERE WE ARE TODAY..
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THE COLO OIL AND GAS COMMISSION IS ABOUT TO DROP THE BALL ON ENERGY EXPLORATION IN COLO.. NEWS AT 5
06-23-2008, 03:05 PM
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Tell that to the families of the soldiers buried in Arlington National cemetery (and others) who died protecting that flag!!
Whether your intent is disrespect or not isn't the issue!!!
IT IS CLEARLY DISRESPECTFUL!!!
And besides who do you think would actually look at that upside down flag and say to themselves, "Oh my God, we better do something about these high fuel prices!"
The answer= NOT ONE SOUL.
We do have a political forum if you'ld like to debate the political side of this issue. http://www.all-politics.net/index.php
Whether your intent is disrespect or not isn't the issue!!!
IT IS CLEARLY DISRESPECTFUL!!!
And besides who do you think would actually look at that upside down flag and say to themselves, "Oh my God, we better do something about these high fuel prices!"
The answer= NOT ONE SOUL.
We do have a political forum if you'ld like to debate the political side of this issue. http://www.all-politics.net/index.php
06-23-2008, 03:10 PM
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And besides if he's gonna raise taxes on those over 250K or 1 mil or whatever it should go up exactly the same percentage for everyone. We shouldn't punish folks for being successful.
06-23-2008, 03:55 PM
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FYI, there are 9 bills coming up for a vote in congress, that would crack down on the speculators. hedge fund mgr. and top advisor to the oil companies, Michael Masters (for all of you who claim there's no tie-in between the oil companies and the speculators, please explain this), has warned that passage of these bills could result in the price of oil dropping by HALF within 30 days of their passing. BTW, of the 9 bills coming up for vote, only 1 was co-sponsored by a republican, as they have been opposed to any regulation of the speculators and have been opposed to the closing of the enron loophole- this is not party bashing, but just the facts. i feel that everyone should see the dirty laundry on both sides of the aisle, as both sides seem more concerned with big money corporate America and their own agendas, than with the survival of the working middle class. but, democratic support for these 9 bills is the first thing that EITHER party has put forth, that can give us hope for significant price relief in the NEAR future.
06-23-2008, 04:00 PM
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my opinion......for wht its worth....
THIS WILL HAVE NO EFFECT.....
you all are kidding yourself if you think a meeeeeeeeesley 500,000 barrels a day will even make a DENT.
FACT: the world burns 10 million barrels an HOUR...of crude. (as was stated by the oil exceutives durring the congressional hearing)(and confirmed by a phone call to my father who works for one of those sooooo hated oil companies)
thats right 10 million BARRELS AN HOUR.
what is half a million barrels a day gonna do.....it is just a ploy to make us THINK...aweeee how nice of them to help us out in this time of need...its a way for them to divert the attention away from them....a way to make them seem compasionate toward our plight.
NCA
ps. there is NO SILVER BULLET........people say drill...drill...drill...yea that will help but another known fact...just to put things in perspective....they estimate that there is approx. 10 BILLION barrels of crude in the anwar province...the UNITED STATES ALONE WOULD BURN THAT IN LESS THAN A YEAR...actually by the math it would last (estimated) Jan 1 to mid Sept.
THIS WILL HAVE NO EFFECT.....
you all are kidding yourself if you think a meeeeeeeeesley 500,000 barrels a day will even make a DENT.
FACT: the world burns 10 million barrels an HOUR...of crude. (as was stated by the oil exceutives durring the congressional hearing)(and confirmed by a phone call to my father who works for one of those sooooo hated oil companies)
thats right 10 million BARRELS AN HOUR.
what is half a million barrels a day gonna do.....it is just a ploy to make us THINK...aweeee how nice of them to help us out in this time of need...its a way for them to divert the attention away from them....a way to make them seem compasionate toward our plight.
NCA
ps. there is NO SILVER BULLET........people say drill...drill...drill...yea that will help but another known fact...just to put things in perspective....they estimate that there is approx. 10 BILLION barrels of crude in the anwar province...the UNITED STATES ALONE WOULD BURN THAT IN LESS THAN A YEAR...actually by the math it would last (estimated) Jan 1 to mid Sept.
I think you and your daddy need to get your facts straight. We use ~20 million barrels a DAY. NOT "10 MILLION BARRELS AN HOUR!!!!" Stop with the dramatics!!!CHRIST!!!!!
Just because daddy works at the Chevron station doesn't mean he's big oilhttp://www.eia.doe.gov/basics/quickoil.html
06-23-2008, 04:08 PM
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FYI, there are 9 bills coming up for a vote in congress, that would crack down on the speculators. hedge fund mgr. and top advisor to the oil companies, Michael Masters (for all of you who claim there's no tie-in between the oil companies and the speculators, please explain this), has warned that passage of these bills could result in the price of oil dropping by HALF within 30 days of their passing. BTW, of the 9 bills coming up for vote, only 1 was co-sponsored by a republican, as they have been opposed to any regulation of the speculators and have been opposed to the closing of the enron loophole- this is not party bashing, but just the facts. i feel that everyone should see the dirty laundry on both sides of the aisle, as both sides seem more concerned with big money corporate America and their own agendas, than with the survival of the working middle class. but, democratic support for these 9 bills is the first thing that EITHER party has put forth, that can give us hope for significant price relief in the NEAR future.
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06-23-2008, 04:33 PM
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I think you and your daddy need to get your facts straight. We use ~20 million barrels a DAY. NOT "10 MILLION BARRELS AN HOUR!!!!" Stop with the dramatics!!!CHRIST!!!!! Just because daddy works at the Chevron station doesn't mean he's big oil
http://www.eia.doe.gov/basics/quickoil.html
Just because daddy works at the Chevron station doesn't mean he's big oilhttp://www.eia.doe.gov/basics/quickoil.html
It's funny to watch some of the whack-a-do conspiracy theories floating around this forum. Mostly baseless innuendo laced with a hint of truth.
06-23-2008, 07:00 PM
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http://saywhen.wordpress.com/2008/06...g-at-the-pump/
seems like lots of conspiracy theorists have a little thing called 'the facts' on their side. BTW, aside from being Ferris Bueller's teacher, Ben Stein has worked for pres. Nixon and Ford (republicans), and is a highly regarded economist who has authored many books, and is a frequent contributor to CNBC and Fox News. just another crackpot on board the 'conspiracy theory' express.
seems like lots of conspiracy theorists have a little thing called 'the facts' on their side. BTW, aside from being Ferris Bueller's teacher, Ben Stein has worked for pres. Nixon and Ford (republicans), and is a highly regarded economist who has authored many books, and is a frequent contributor to CNBC and Fox News. just another crackpot on board the 'conspiracy theory' express.
06-23-2008, 08:45 PM
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FYI, there are 9 bills coming up for a vote in congress, that would crack down on the speculators. hedge fund mgr. and top advisor to the oil companies, Michael Masters (for all of you who claim there's no tie-in between the oil companies and the speculators, please explain this), has warned that passage of these bills could result in the price of oil dropping by HALF within 30 days of their passing. BTW, of the 9 bills coming up for vote, only 1 was co-sponsored by a republican, as they have been opposed to any regulation of the speculators and have been opposed to the closing of the enron loophole- this is not party bashing, but just the facts. i feel that everyone should see the dirty laundry on both sides of the aisle, as both sides seem more concerned with big money corporate America and their own agendas, than with the survival of the working middle class. but, democratic support for these 9 bills is the first thing that EITHER party has put forth, that can give us hope for significant price relief in the NEAR future.
Yet another bill before congress..
Lets see here they had a bill on immigration, fixing the health-care system, foreign trade and the national debt...To my knowledge the only thing they agreed upon and passed was their pay raise bill..