Diesel to natural gas conversion
Has anyone tried this or have ino and prices to do it? Many cities mow run there buses on natural gas. These were most likely diesel engines.
Wonder if they will run on both, nat gas when not owing, diesel for towing? Nat gas is way cheaper than diesel, about .95/gallon. |
Originally Posted by USMC64-70
(Post 2023510)
Has anyone tried this or have ino and prices to do it? Many cities mow run there buses on natural gas. These were most likely diesel engines.
Wonder if they will run on both, nat gas when not owing, diesel for towing? Nat gas is way cheaper than diesel, about .95/gallon. |
Originally Posted by USMC64-70
(Post 2023510)
Has anyone tried this or have ino and prices to do it? Many cities mow run there buses on natural gas. These were most likely diesel engines.
Wonder if they will run on both, nat gas when not owing, diesel for towing? Nat gas is way cheaper than diesel, about .95/gallon. |
Diesel to nat gas
Logskidder
Any idea what the conversion costs? Just a ballpark number. |
http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/pdfs/6-4.pdf
hope that link works ita about a 5.9 liter cummins produced engine im pretty sure cummins makes quite a few propane powerd diesel based engines like yall said the city busses and allot of Masive generators are using LP heres another cool propane website http://www.alternatefuelsracing.com/ |
Originally Posted by USMC64-70
(Post 2023559)
Logskidder
Any idea what the conversion costs? Just a ballpark number. |
Originally Posted by taildragger
(Post 2023548)
Whats the BTU content of the nat. gas when compared to diesel (something to think about, diesel will have much more)
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Originally Posted by taildragger
(Post 2023548)
Whats the BTU content of the nat. gas when compared to diesel (something to think about, diesel will have much more)
So #2 has about 18 times more BTUs per gallon than NG |
I think that there are some missing aspects of this post .
Running a diesel off natural gas ? Adding natural gas , propane , hydrogen to help a diesel run ? I know a gasser can fun off gas vs gasoline . But I have not heard of a diesel able to run off of a gas / no diesel - or other oil . |
Originally Posted by John Faughn
(Post 2024694)
I think that there are some missing aspects of this post .
Running a diesel off natural gas ? Adding natural gas , propane , hydrogen to help a diesel run ? I know a gasser can fun off gas vs gasoline . But I have not heard of a diesel able to run off of a gas / no diesel - or other oil . |
It sounds like this idea to reduce fuel costs is not viable. $10k - $15k for a conversion, you can buy a lot of diesel for that price.
Sounds like a gasoline engine is much easier to run both fuels. |
Originally Posted by logskidder
(Post 2024748)
To convert a diesel over to to LNG or CNG it can never run on diesel again unless converted back diesel....different type of head/pistons/cam/electronics/fuel system
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Originally Posted by John Faughn
(Post 2024853)
I would say that its still wrong , its not a diesel engine any more , just using some existing parts to make a different eng.
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Originally Posted by USMC64-70
(Post 2024840)
It sounds like this idea to reduce fuel costs is not viable. $10k - $15k for a conversion, you can buy a lot of diesel for that price.
Sounds like a gasoline engine is much easier to run both fuels. |
Originally Posted by logskidder
(Post 2024890)
For most people its not worth it.....and a full load of CNG will only go about 300 miles.
If you want to compare diesel power to Natural Gas, just take a look on the Caterpillar website as they make the same model engines in NG or diesel. Usually the Diesel can provide a good 75% more power than the NG equivalent. |
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