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$4.00 plus a gallon!!!!!
How long till the truckers go on strike?
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There aren't many owner operators anymore. Most drivers work for a trucking co. and the added cost will be passed on to the customer.
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It sucks that we are getting penalized for efficiency...My friend works at a gas station as the manager and we were talking about why Diesel was so expensive, it seems counterintuitive since it takes less energy to refine crude oil to diesel then it does to petroleum/gasoline. He said that the main reason for expense is because the majority of the diesels out there like ours or Benz, VW, etc. get quite a bit higher mileage then their gasser counterparts...and therefore we get higher fuel prices to try and even it out....this blows! You would think we would get rewarded for efficiency not the other way around.
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Don`t know about a strike but my older brother is a OTR trucker, he just changed jobs because his old place of employment seems like it`s going belly up (cutting benefits, little to no work). It`s a shame because he REALLY liked working for this guy, he also feels VERY lucky to have found another job so easily.
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Diesel is a primary fuel and gasoline is secondary.
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Diesel has been $4.19 /gallon around here for a week already......
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Originally Posted by SCC
(Post 1993622)
It sucks that we are getting penalized for efficiency...My friend works at a gas station as the manager and we were talking about why Diesel was so expensive, it seems counterintuitive since it takes less energy to refine crude oil to diesel then it does to petroleum/gasoline. He said that the main reason for expense is because the majority of the diesels out there like ours or Benz, VW, etc. get quite a bit higher mileage then their gasser counterparts...and therefore we get higher fuel prices to try and even it out....this blows! You would think we would get rewarded for efficiency not the other way around.
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huntr, which part of PA are you in? It was 4.09 a few days ago around here, but I havn't looked at the signs lately (makes me sick when I do[yuk])
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guy up here in canada where i live diesel is $1.35 liter not sure what that is per gallon but i do know that it cost me $147 dollars fill my truck tonight when my fuel light just came on .... [verymad]
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I haven't driven my truck in 12 days now. Just using the little VW Jetta TDI.
I'm now wishing I didn't purchase my new 08 C&C that is coming in sometime next week. That truck too, will be sitting most of the time till the summer. I'm an down to my last 12 cigars, after that I won't be buying any more. Mac & Cheese and Raman noodles will be the main staple in the house very soon. |
I like listening to the news when they talk about filling up their gassers and how much it's hurting at the pump....they seem oblivious to the fact that diesel is what 60 cents higher than gas....and what does diesel do?? Power farm equipment, ships, trucks. Yeah, it's getting pretty crazy, something like 3.82 around here. Everytime I drive past the stations on the way home from work seems like diesel has gone up another 10 cents. Keeps on going I see some hard times ahead for all. Can anybody say Anwar??
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yeah, its unbelievable, i heard that there is a government problem w/ diesel and thats why it is high, no idea?, but most of the cost of diesel is the included road taxes, the govt assumes that every diesel vehicle is a semi and that it wears the roads too much, they should have a regular diesel pump that is for the under 10,000 lb vehicles w/ a lower cost. same thing with the offroad diesel, thats why that didnt go up much, i know guys that are runnung off road fuel and clean their fuel necks after every fill up, im to cautious about doing that but i guess they are making out better than the rest of us!
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Its up to $3.95 a gallon here. It has been going up 5 cents a gallon about every day for the last week now. It really hurts when a half tank costs $70. I cut back on my driving quite a bit by atleast half. Now I kind of wish I hadn't sold my gasser pickup 2 weeks ago.
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On my way for wings tonight saw the price at the station, $1.189/L, which works out to $4.50/gallon. Hurray!
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Originally Posted by fmxr47
(Post 1994319)
yeah, its unbelievable, i heard that there is a government problem w/ diesel and thats why it is high, no idea?, but most of the cost of diesel is the included road taxes, the govt assumes that every diesel vehicle is a semi and that it wears the roads too much, they should have a regular diesel pump that is for the under 10,000 lb vehicles w/ a lower cost. same thing with the offroad diesel, thats why that didnt go up much, i know guys that are runnung off road fuel and clean their fuel necks after every fill up, im to cautious about doing that but i guess they are making out better than the rest of us!
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Originally Posted by dodgeguy71
(Post 1994287)
I like listening to the news when they talk about filling up their gassers and how much it's hurting at the pump....they seem oblivious to the fact that diesel is what 60 cents higher than gas....and what does diesel do?? Power farm equipment, ships, trucks. Yeah, it's getting pretty crazy, something like 3.82 around here. Everytime I drive past the stations on the way home from work seems like diesel has gone up another 10 cents. Keeps on going I see some hard times ahead for all. Can anybody say Anwar??
High diesel prices = More farmers out of work so less jobs Less owner operators in the trucking industry Higher cost of goods Less Construction Oh and lets not forget that the truck that delivers the gas runs on Diesel. Soon we will be hearing that another gas truck was robbed instead of the corner store. |
Diesel fuel tracks with the futures market, similar to gasoline. If you look at heating oil futures(simialr to diesel), add $.60 for taxes, you have todays price.
It was $3.07 in the paper this morning. Diesel runs about $3.75 nationally, I think. It also takes 1.55 dollars to buy a Euro. The $ has sunk more in the last 2 years, time wise, than at any point in our lives, maybe the history of this country. This also drives up fuel/oil/diesel costs Interesting article about this in Car & Driver this month. The refineries in this country are optimized for gasoline, with cracking towers. this means a lot more gasoline, less diesel. In Europe. no cracking. They are more diesel oriented, because govenments there subsidize diesel. I think over 50% of their cars are diesel. They do not have the same emissions requirements that we have. They end up exporting gas to us, as a result Bottom line: Fuel(heating) oil demand, jet fuel demand, diesel demand, all similar stuff. All are up!! Demand is up so cost is higher, across the board, around the world. Prices will not come down until there is World recession, diminishing demand. Until then, we cry in our beer. If there is a conspiracy, it is our Country's Balance of payments, trade imbalance, lack of realistic energy plan. We have extended Day light saving. That will fix everything! |
In the paper here today it looks like they are going to dig some test wells.
In our own country. http://www.sgvtribune.com/news/ci_8555205 It seems they have to please the waco environments first, I think it is time they put that aside and take care of the main problem they have created. Would you rather pay $4.00 for a gallon of diesel or pay less if you had to look at some derricks? As far back as I can remember I would see oil derricks as I drove through the hills on the way to the beach. and used to go and park at the beach to neck and watch the towers all lit up on the horizon I liked them. There are still some along the I-57 fwy and Tonner Canyon. I am living by what used to be the largest Toxic Waste dump in the nation and out of that they are extracting the methane gas and generating their own power so some good can come from the ugly. Heck we are all going to die from the pharmaceuticals in our drinking water before we die from looking at an oil well. And isn't it odd that this seems to be nation wide. Maybe it is a plot like the fluoride they put in our water without our say. http://www.sgvtribune.com/rds_search...sgvtribune.com http://www.sgvtribune.com/rds_search...sgvtribune.com Just my opinion. Jim |
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