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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 08:32 AM
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95z---

I will look into the idea of a welch plug !!

To avoid purchasing a different dipstick; I will fill the pan with 12 qts. and remark the stick , ( again, this was Macet's suggestion ) !!


I have been looking into going a different direction on my Intercooler !! After measuring 8 or 10 times, I feel I am gonna be 1 to 1.5 inches short in the engine bay !! I am ordering a air to water intercooler from siliconeintakes ( their 350 HP kit ) and mount it ontop of the engine and mount the radiator and electric fan for the water under the brake master cylinder ( or maybe put it in the 8 inch space between the valve cover and firewall ) !!
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 95Z28A4
Lucky you. I just received my front PTO drive adapter and tapered collar to replace the QSB3.3T front crank pulley. It was $303 shipped. The front PTO adapter has a nice flat machined surface with a machined center and six threaded 10mm holes - perfect for mounting a serpentine pulley.




I copied the following from a pic on your flickr site:

I will install a thin piece of sheet metal with silicone under the motor mount to cover the hole in the block from the secondary Oil fill !!

A welch plug (freeze plug) wouldn't be better than sheetmetal and silicone? Cummins probably has a welch plug with a part number that fits.

Also, I noticed you moved your dipstick from the driver side to the passenger side. I did the same on my QSB3.3T. The dipstick tube boss on the passenger side is a little higher than the driver side. Hence, I needed a shorter dipstick tube. Cummins had a tube with a part number to fit. You've probalby already thought of this, but I thought I'd call it to your attention.

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On the Freeze Plug issue... Cummins does use that.... in another block option I believe... Hulk I can get you some specs if need be..
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Hulkgreen
I can't thank Macet enough !!

I now have a rear sump oil pan . Total cost for Pan, Adapter, Gasket, and Pick-up Tube ... $170 .... I feel like someone made a mistake, that price seems to good to be true !!







I also made a couple adjustments ( the routing of a wire and the fuel supply line ) on the driver side of the engine, so I could install the 2001 Dodge 5.9L motor mount !!



I have updated my flickr account if you would like to see more pics


WOW! I was worried... but that is OK... Good Deal... the 16 qt we were dicussing would not work anyway... What you have is the best we can do... so I think...
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Hulkgreen
Update on the rear sump oil pan ....

I finally pulled the oil pan to see what could be the reason for a 6" deep oil pan front to rear !!!


Well, I found it; I believe it is a part designed to help balance the engine, but I am not sure what it is !! It is in no way touching the crank !!



You've had this thing installed since 2002 and are just showing it to us now!?!?!? haha
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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Macet, you've been a great asset to this thread. Thanks for your continued feedback and help.

A few more days and it'll be 4 yrs on my conversion. Drove it to work today and then to my kids baseball game. Still clatters around real nice. Had an issue with the electric vacuum pump last month but it was just the inline fuse that got oxidized and was making intermittent connection. The engine, adapters and that old AX-15 have been a good combination.
Glad to help... I like to see this snowball you started get bigger... Everyone adds their little piece...
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 07:57 AM
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You've had this thing installed since 2002 and are just showing it to us now!?!?!? haha
hey kreisel,

I started last year with a 1984 Mercedes 3.0L Diesel, but not in 2002 !! I just bought this Cummins 4.5L in March, so I have only had it 3 1/2 months !! But, I have changed the front diff+regeared it and transfer case in that time period also !!
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Macet
On the Freeze Plug issue... Cummins does use that.... in another block option I believe... Hulk I can get you some specs if need be..
I measured it .... the hole is like 1 3/16 but I ordered a 1 1/4 also, just to be sure !! Dorman # 555-024 fit nicely and was less than a $1 ! Motor Mounts are installed !!

95z..... Thank you !! I had not thought of the freeze plug idea, but it is great and helps me move forward ( another hurdle overcome ) !! Rerouting the fuel line from the pump to the fuel rail is next !!

I had my welder over for dinner ( Boiled shrimp and crabs with lots of beer ) ; so now when I get back from Florida on July 12 he will come over and weld in the rest of the motor mount ( frame to cummins 5.9 ) !! Woo Hoo , she will be in her final resting place !!

I forgot to mention on the oil pan; I had to drill and tap two front and two back bolt holes to line up with the mounting plate for the pan ( the 5 on each side lined up perfectly ) !! I went to a local bolt specialty shop called A+L Bolt to get 14 bolts that were roughly 1/2 inch longer than the 24 bolts that were in the original pan ! I also had to purchase 1 bolt I believe M12 and it was 1/2 inch long to put in the oil pickup tube !!

Part #s needed are for QSB 4.5L Oil Pan with rear sump :::::

# 4939246 Gasket, Oil Pan Retail thru Cummins $ 45.44
# 3978183 Tube, Lube Oil Suction Retail thru Cummins $ 26.83
# 2831342 Pan, Oil Retail thru Cummins $ 66.52
# 4938656 Adapter, Oil Pan Retail thru Cummins $ 34.02

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Old Jul 6, 2010 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Hulkgreen
hey kreisel,

I started last year with a 1984 Mercedes 3.0L Diesel, but not in 2002 !! I just bought this Cummins 4.5L in March, so I have only had it 3 1/2 months !! But, I have changed the front diff+regeared it and transfer case in that time period also !!
Just pokin fun since your camera is set for 2002 haha
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Kriesel
Just pokin fun since your camera is set for 2002 haha


Ha Ha !! I did notice that , makes no sense, the date was correct just a couple weeks ago !!
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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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Front PTO Adapter

I've experienced another obstacle with the serpentine belt drive. I attempted to install the front PTO adapter on the QSB3.3T, but it didn't fit. The PTO adapter that I was sent is a full power adapter that is supposed to fit my engine, but it doesn't. My crankshaft has a keyed shoulder that the timing gear slips over and the factory single groove pulley has a stepped bore that fits over this shoulder. The back of the single groove pulley seats against the timing gear holding it in place.

The front PTO adapter that I was sent does not have the stepped bore. Hence, it does not slip completely on to the crankshaft. The Cummins rep that I have been working with is researching the problem and looking for the correct part.

For those who don't know, there are at least 2 types of front PTO adapters:

A low power adapter that slips on to and is fastened to the crankshaft like the factory V belt pulley.

A full power PTO that is capable of applying full engine power from the front of the crankshaft. The bore of the full power PTO is tapered. The taper starts at the face of the adapter and stops about 1/2" down the bore. A matching tapered collar slips over the crank and into the bore of the PTO adapter. The retaining washer and fastener are then installed and torqued to 130 lbs/ft. The result is additional clamping force applied by the tapered collar as it is forced into the bore of the PTO adapter. This works in much the same way as a compression tubing fitting.

I don't need a full power PTO adapter to drive accessories. A low power PTO adapter should work fine. I have the full power PTO because the Cummins rep could not find a low power PTO to fit my QSB3.3T. I would prefer a low PTO because it seems to be less expensive and easier to remove. The full power PTO requires a special puller that threads onto the tapered collar. The special puller lists for $214. Obviously the "C" in Cummins stands for "C note".

Macet,
If you have any knowledge that you can share of a front PTO adapter to fit my QSB3.3T, I'll appreciate it. My ESN is 68301042. Thanks.

On a positive note:
I have completed my wiring harness with the exception of the diagnostic port connector. I'll have to wait install this connector after I pass the wires through the firewall. Picture uploaded to Flickr in my sig.

I have the adapter / mounting plate to mount the 2005 Chevy Suburban hydroboost unit to my ZJ. I trial fitted it and the fit is perfect. Cost was $53. If anyone is interested in converting to hydroboost brakes, pictures and vendor contact information is uploaded to Flickr in my sig.

I have fitted a factory ZJ brake light switch to the ZJ clutch pedal bracket. The brake light switch has 3 sets of contacts. I will use one set as a cruise control interrupt for the CM2150 ECM and another set as a starter/clutch interlock. Pictures with descriptions uploaded to Flickr in my sig.

I am presently in Tennessee. We have been searching for retirement property for over 2 years. After numerous trips to Tennessee searching for the "right" tract of land, we plan to sign papers on 50 acres in Dickson County Monday afternoon.

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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 95Z28A4
On a positive note:
I have completed my wiring harness with the exception of the diagnostic port connector. I'll have to wait install this connector after I pass the wires through the firewall. Picture uploaded to Flickr in my sig.
Are you planning to use the Cummins style Inline5 diagnostics? That would be great! But the Inline5 adapter is pretty pricey. If you can get an Inline4 somewhere, it does the exact same thing as the Inline5, except the Inline5 has USB capability, where the Inline4 is serial cable only.

EDIT: link to inline5 adapter on cummins powerstore: http://powerstore.cummins.com/defaul...t_name=3165033
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Kriesel
Are you planning to use the Cummins style Inline5 diagnostics? That would be great! But the Inline5 adapter is pretty pricey. If you can get an Inline4 somewhere, it does the exact same thing as the Inline5, except the Inline5 has USB capability, where the Inline4 is serial cable only.

EDIT: link to inline5 adapter on cummins powerstore: http://powerstore.cummins.com/defaul...t_name=3165033
Coincidently, I was seriously looking at the 5200 model and using it instead of installing gauges !! But , you are correct it is rather pricey !

QUICKCHECK 5200 Kit
Kits Includes the following:
QC 5200 Handheld Computer
2 Datalink Cables
USB Cable
AC Power Supply
QC 5200 Software CD
Storage Case
Item Sku: 4919189
$1,186.00
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 09:50 PM
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Duh!

Originally Posted by 95Z28A4
I've experienced another obstacle with the serpentine belt drive. I attempted to install the front PTO adapter on the QSB3.3T, but it didn't fit. The PTO adapter that I was sent is a full power adapter that is supposed to fit my engine, but it doesn't. My crankshaft has a keyed shoulder that the timing gear slips over and the factory single groove pulley has a stepped bore that fits over this shoulder. The back of the single groove pulley seats against the timing gear holding it in place.

The front PTO adapter that I was sent does not have the stepped bore. Hence, it does not slip completely on to the crankshaft. The Cummins rep that I have been working with is researching the problem and looking for the correct part.

Macet,
If you have any knowledge that you can share of a front PTO adapter to fit my QSB3.3T, I'll appreciate it. My ESN is 68301042. Thanks.
OK.........I'm an idiot. I tried the full power PTO adapter again tonight and after a little manipulation, it slid right over the shoulder of the crankshaft and seated against the timing gear. The stepped bore is not needed because the bore diameter is obviously large enough to fit over the shoulder.

Macet,
Forget about checking on the PTO adapter. If you've already done so, I apologize for sending you on a dead-end search with bad information.

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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Kriesel
Are you planning to use the Cummins style Inline5 diagnostics? That would be great! But the Inline5 adapter is pretty pricey. If you can get an Inline4 somewhere, it does the exact same thing as the Inline5, except the Inline5 has USB capability, where the Inline4 is serial cable only.

EDIT: link to inline5 adapter on cummins powerstore: http://powerstore.cummins.com/defaul...t_name=3165033

I'm not sure yet. Obviously, the CM2150 will need some customization as some of the features I'll be using are not "turned on" by default.

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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 10:04 AM
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My 1993 Jeep wrangler

I have been reading this form for the last two years I just wanted to show ever one my Build I have installed the 3.3 i bought no adapters I use the stock flywheel stock tyranny and stock clutch. I also used my stock power steering well any way here are the pictures let me know what you think
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