its a journal bearing, and brand new. What kinda of turbine exhaust flange does it have on it? Its a single volute turbine housing. How big of motor is he gonna build? That turbo is probably rated around 800-1000 HP area. You'll probably get a maximum of 40-50psi out it. Its a higher flow just cause there are six compressor blades. You'll be around the 90 to 100 lbs/min area. With the turbine disk as large as Pind indicated, its off a bigger inch motor. A GT4202 has 82mm disk. Snap a picture of the turbine disk. For measuring the inducer you measure the smallest size of the compressor/turbine disk. For the exducer size you measure the outside diameter. From that you can calculate the trim of the wheel/disk for quick measurements.

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...o_tech102.html

 

That isnt really a bunch different in size than the one on my truck then is it Mike?

 

The turbine disk is larger on EVIL turbo and is a single volute. Yours is a smaller turbine disk and dual volute. The A/R ratio would be close, as the evil turbo has a different turbine inlet flange. The compressor housing looks smaller (less A/R), but thats from 500 kms away. The compressor discharge has a different fitting. Other than that its pretty much the same. It would make a nice primary for us that have less fuel available

Luke's turbo is a monster, even the turbine housing is the extra large size. Must be like his truck.I bet that turbo weighs over 75lbs.

I just welded up my hot downtube for my little 450-500rwhp twins last night. If I put the my primary turbo besides Mr Evil turbo, I think it could fit inside compressor inlet. I have that size envy issue again.

 

Cant take any more pics or measure it - I dont have it with me. I have no idea on the flange size either.

Like I said it was supposed to go on his 5.0 mustang...but he has since bought a couple of other built cars - he said he couldnt pass up the deals with the way the economy is.

 

I was wrong, the part number makes it a turbo off a DDEC III/IV 12v4000. we have 1 in stock. and last one we sold was a short time ago to BJ Services, for $2285

But thats dealer price for a OEM reman part right keep that in mind.

So I did a run up of a 16v4000 for Canyon on Crowns test stand today. sure enough. thats the baby. its 1 off quad turbos off a 4000 Series MTU/Detroit guaronteed.

 

You rock buddy.


So its off a Detroit?? I know nothing about anything bigger than a 5.9L Cummins.

Thanks.

 

yup Detroit bought MTU some years ago. and made MTU the big power lineup for detroit to compete with the big iron cummins QSK45 QSK60 and Cat 3500 series engines of the day. actually that one giant turbo I put a pic of is on a Cummins QSK78 that was in our shop for BJ, that I rigged up the 9800 Allison to. those are 3500hp diesels.

 

outside of the fact that it says DDC/MTU on it in no less than 2 places thats not exactly a tough one.

and nothing green or GM about it. being MTU. you call it Detroit on an outside technicality. but its MTU through and through.

 

Hey guys I found this link.

http://www.transmissioncenter.org/cu...bt_adapter.htm

It a link for transmission adapters, so you can put almost any transmission behind a 5.9L. I'm dreaming about an Allison 1500, but might settle for a Allison 1000.

Wow, Luke, your amazing. Good find buddy. That must one big engine for that much horsepower in a gen set. 12V, I think by the model number. The 4000 is for max HP, I'm guessing

 

Mikester theres OEM applications that I've seen with Allison 2000 behind them in cheesewagon school busses. the 1000 and 2000 are virtually identical. except for s couple VERY minor differences....which I can't recall off the top of my head.

But I'm willing to bet you can find a smaller class 4, 5 or maybe 6, KW or Petes with a 3000 behind it. that paccar PX6 or whatever its called is just a rebadged cummins B series, I've seem them in med duty 5tons and such. with allisons. just never looked at one to see exactly what tranny it was.

 

Oh the 4000 and 2000 designations are displacement per cylinder. 2000 Series is 2 liters per hole, and naturally 4000 is 4 liters displacemnt.

so that red 16v4000 I was on today is a 64 Liter engine. its not a genset though this is a Frac pumper. tons of 4000's, 12v and 16v in gensets and various power units though.

 

Wow buddy, those are some big inch motors.

I wanted to pass along that info as there are a few of us that like to swap in non standard transmissions. It made my day when I can match up a 12v 5.9L and an Allison transmission. I was thinking that I had to buy something brand new to get into a six speed auto. My DTT 4 speed auto is still working good, but when I pull my RV, I kinda like that extra low first gear. It helps keep the smoke to a minimun I guess I could always just put in a 5vr. I've even considered a underspeed/overdrive gear system, but they aren't built to handle the kind of abuse that I tend occur when I drive.

 

no I understand what your saying. but you can find cummins married to 1000/2000 allisons used with a SAE bellhousings. that was a factory option in a few med duty applications. so if you start yellow page hunting I'm sure a truck wrecker somewhere has one.

 

Are they set-up for 4X4 transfercase? I want to run the 271 t-case. you probably have to get the flywheel, converter and starter off the truck as well Thanks Luke, my build gears are whirling away.

 

all the med duty junk I personally see has divorced transfercase. last one i saw in the shop was a 5500 Kodiak GMC. Duramax Allison 2wd to divorced 271.

its was a bangin setup.