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Old 07-16-2009, 12:48 AM
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Yeah - Shell in Red Deer. I think its called V-Power. I got duped into filling up with that stuff last winter. Worked OK, no extra mileage gain, but what is the point of it other than paying more??
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the shell in okotoks has premium diesel and regular diesel too..........Im not sure what thats about yet.
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Most (not all) shells have v power. It is a higher cetane rating than regular diesel. Basically it is fuel that already has a conditioner in it for winter time, or in the case of my truck (dodge) all year long. It sure helps quiet the pinging that happens in my dodge
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Well I got curious and there was some pretty good info on the Canadian formulation of Shell V-Power here:

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread...=219424&page=3

A point or 2 higher cetane, no GTL-derived fuel.

But some are claiming improved mileage.

Kevin, what causes pinging on a diesel?? Is it a bad thing or just annoying?
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So whats the difference. More cetane percentage? Its can't be octane. My truck didn't know the difference, fuel mileage was the same. The VP seemed to sound off, but that could be the heat here.
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Well in my truck it is caused by advancing the fuel timing... cetane helps that.. I add alot of cetane to help fight this,,, You shouldnt notice it on a fairly stock engine, and if you are,, change your programming,, it isnt a good thing
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I fill up at a Shell in Creekside(NW Calgary) that has the V-power. I usually buy it, its about 3 cents more per liter but I do see atleast a 1mpg improvement. I also see atleast a 1mpg improvment using the regular Shell Diesel over the crap I get from Fas Gas in Cochrane..

Our fuel here sucks. When I went to Moab 2 years ago I got better milage in the US towing my Jeep on a trailer than I did here empty. I was talking with the service manager at Cochrane Dodge about it and he said they see quite a few trucks come in with problems from bad fuel. According to him Alberta doesn't have an provincial regualtions on fuel quality where as other provinces do. So often low quality batches of fuel get shipped(dumped) here.
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Clayh, how is moab? Can we use our trucks other there in the sands? I don't want to do the rock climbs, but just some decent 4X4 trails. I want to drive there and use my truck and be able to drive back home again.
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I never did any sand there just rock. There are tons of trails of all levels and many of the trails have bypasses around the more difficult obstacles.

After my Jeep broke I took the '01 Dually onto Shafer trail for a day. Lots of long climbs with switch backs and some small ledges but nothing the dually couldn't handle. I could have done it in 2wd except in wanted to be in low range. Make sure your cooling system and tranny cooler are in good shape. Even with the double deep aluminum finned tranny pan my tranny temps still started to go up.

Try to go in spring or fall. Daily temps are more reasonable. We went in mid May. Left in a snow storm, got stuck in snow at my wife's uncle's place in Wyoming. A week later it hit 40C in Moab and my 3yr old daughter got heat stroke!
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