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First Urea fill on my Ram 2500.

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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 11:28 AM
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First Urea fill on my Ram 2500.

Guys,
Just checking to see what kind of mileage you are getting out of a tank of Urea?
Brought my 13 Ram 2500 in because the gage was on empty.
Truck is 2 months old. I have done very minimal towing because I have a dually for towing.
Here are the stats.
Miles 4165
Hours:
17 hours idling
85 hours running.

115 Total Hours

Is this in line.

When I picked this truck I heard this ticking noise from underneath and actually took the truck in to have it looked at. They said that all RAM urea trucks would have this sound. I did test drive a couple and they all did make the ticking noise. I have a 2012 DRW that makes no noise.

Either way, looking to some comments from folks that have 2013 urea trucks.

Thanks Mark
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 01:15 PM
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Can't give you a data point for comparison, but they "advertise" one tank of urea per oil change. With all the idling you did I would say 4165 miles sounds about right.
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SOhappy
Can't give you a data point for comparison, but they "advertise" one tank of urea per oil change. With all the idling you did I would say 4165 miles sounds about right.
But an oil change on a '13+ is suppose to be up to 15K miles....

The DEF usage is going on on the other Cummins forums as well. It seems, in hot weather and towing, they're using anywhere from 25:1 to 50:1 Fuel to DEF. I hear, when it's cold out, these trucks use very little DEF.

BTW, I've also heard Cummins states they should average about 50:1 on Fuel to DEF.
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 02:51 PM
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You are absolutely right Crabjoe
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Old Aug 16, 2013 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Crabjoe
But an oil change on a '13+ is suppose to be up to 15K miles....
Not at an average of 36 mph (4165 divided by 115).

I'd be interested to know how high the oil is on the dipstick, the pre-urea trucks liked to "make oil" when idling a lot. I wonder if the ratio of EGR to DEF is used more at idle or highway speeds, or equal parts throughout the RPM range. Unfortunately you're blazing new territory here, other than the cab & chassis guys.
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Old Aug 25, 2013 | 10:58 PM
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Does not seem to be much traffic on this site anymore. Or is it that there are just not many 4th gen guys on here?
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Old Sep 1, 2013 | 10:22 PM
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I dunno what happened
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Old Sep 2, 2013 | 12:08 PM
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Most of the boards I visit are very slow. Not like they used to be. The economy since 07' has really gotten to most folks. People are still losing their houses.
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Old Sep 9, 2013 | 12:27 PM
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I agree - I was surprised over the last couple of months that very little discussion / activity on the forum.
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Old Sep 9, 2013 | 01:10 PM
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Not much to complain about on these 4th gens I guess.
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SOhappy
Not much to complain about on these 4th gens I guess.
I agree. Mine has been completely problem free at 6400 miles. Just love this thing!
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 09:27 PM
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I always check cummins forum for new truck info. Tons and tons of new buyers there..
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 10:20 PM
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Lots of summer stuff has happened over the past few months. Give em time they will be back.. lol


I've only had one problem.. It was 39c and i let my truck idle in traffic for a hour and my sensor behind my DPF is reading bad. Other then that this truck has been fan fricken tastic.. 94000 km.. nothing done but oil changes and fuel added to it..
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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 09:06 PM
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Prior to me buying a new dodge DEF truck, I'm going to wait for a few winters or wait for someone to delete. I have even been considering buying a 2013 2500HD duramax, only because its cheaper and you can do a delete it.

Heard that there are some cold winter issues and urea freeze up. Have to see how the new dodge truck take a 2-4 weeks -40 deg's C snap. I use my truck for work.
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Old Apr 11, 2014 | 06:24 PM
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Angry DEF Usage

I have a 2014 Ram 3500 4x4 CC 8' 6.7L Asian with 4,276 miles on today and have had to fill my tank twice already and it's now down to 75% with about half of that mileage towing a #7,000 trailer.

Dealer says they checked with Ram and I'm inside the "normal" range.

To me, it seems really excessive. Thanks goodness it's not real expensive but it is it a royal pain.

When you reference the owners manual you can be lead to believe that one tank of DEF will last past the 7,500 mile service. Don't believe it!

Towing hits it hard.
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