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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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maybe the g56 in the 2001 is used as an anchor
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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maybe the g56 in the 2001 is used as an anchor

"Here comes another red light honey......toss out the anchor!!!"


Still love my G56 though.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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Once you get trailer brakes you will need a good brake controller. There are a number of them out there.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 07:39 PM
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Are there still states that allow trailers on the road without brakes, even single axle trailers? Driving/pulling a trailer without brakes rates right up there with driving under the influence, or in your case driving without braking influence. Truly an accident waiting for a place to happen. My truck's brakes easily would stop a trailer without brakes, but to me not having them is just plain crazy. There are several companies that make aftermarket add-on brakes, you need to get with the program an look at getting them. Then get a good controller. If you are driving a CTD and get stopped in one of those road checks designed for fuel testing you truck while tugging that trailer, you will certainly be ticketed for not having trailer brakes, very expensive proposition. Adding the trailer brakes and a controller will be much cheaper than getting a ticket and then installing them.

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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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Adding brakes is easily accomplished on most trailer axles. Go to anywhere that sells trailers (other than Lowes) and tell them you need brakes added to your trailer. When I was in the trailer business (circa 2001) brakes cost about 75.00 per axle plus an hours labor to put them on (and we made GOOD money at that). The common idiot can install brakes on a trailer provided it uses fairly new axles as they come pre-equipped to handle backing plates and drums. As a side note, if you choose to just brake one axle follow these guidelines: If the axles are fully indepenant of each other (i.e. torsion axles) put your brake on the FRONT axle, if your axles are joined at the spring with an equilizer bar (i.e. the rear of the front spring is bolted to a bar that is in turn bolted to the frame and then the front of the rear spring) then put your brake axle on the REAR.

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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 04:37 AM
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Why don't you use the tow/haul button to help?
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 06:54 AM
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Maybe I mis-stated. I have a 3500lb camper on the truck, the boat and trailer weigh a less than 3000lbs. Brakes are not required under 3000lbs. Total weight, 6500lbs, only pulling 3000lbs.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by davedye
Maybe I mis-stated. I have a 3500lb camper on the truck, the boat and trailer weigh a less than 3000lbs. Brakes are not required under 3000lbs. Total weight, 6500lbs, only pulling 3000lbs.
My Aluminum Tracker bass boat (Model TV-18) grosses at 3000, rigged, loaded, and fueled. Much to the dealer's dismay, I had them install brakes on it.

Legally in AZ, you are required to have trailer brakes over 1500lb. Most mfr's, even for the 3500, 'require' trailer brakes for any towed load over 1500lb. Mostly, so that if the trailer were to uncouple from the tow vehicle, the trailer would stop quickly.

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So, with all the negitive responses, can anyone give a soultion? Where to get trailer brakes with out having to buy new axles?
So long as your axle has the square flange to mount the backing plate. If it does not have the flange, you'll have to replace the axle. My bro's boat trailer (from 1981 and weighing ~3k) does not have the flange. So, we have to buy a new axle, before he can even think about buying brakes for it.

Here's some sources for the parts:

http://www.championtrailers.com/
http://www.easternmarine.com/
http://www.etrailerpart.com/

HTH

Tony
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by davedye
Maybe I mis-stated. I have a 3500lb camper on the truck, the boat and trailer weigh a less than 3000lbs. Brakes are not required under 3000lbs. Total weight, 6500lbs, only pulling 3000lbs.
And then you have another what, 8000lbs for the truck. Your brakes are effectly stopping 14500lbs. Do you still think you don't need trailer brakes? I mean the bottom line is, if you get them it will greatly reduce the effort you and your truck have to put into stopping.....
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by megafast
Why don't you use the tow/haul button to help?
manual trannies do not have tow/haul
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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First off, warn me if you come to CA with that load. Its pretty rediculous to ask the brakes on your truck to stop your truck AND a 7500 lb trailer. Get brakes on the trailer before you kill yourself or someoneelse.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 11:51 AM
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First off, if you would read my post you would see that I don't have a 7500lb trailer, I have a 3000lb boat and trailer and a 3500lb truck camper. Boat trailers with less than 3000lbs don't come require brakes.

Secondly, I have no interest in coming to CA.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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I've been known to be wrong before but I thought that the 2500 with a CTD, the bed weight limit was like 2600 Lbs. as on my 06 QC SB it’s only 2100 lbs. So do you have DRW on your truck to handle the extra weight of the camper? The only thing I can say is you will need to drive extra careful with the weight you have until such time you get breaks on your boat trailer if you want to tow it with the camper on the truck.

Good Luck and drive safe.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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Your brakes suck because your exceding the manufactures design. Its obvious that 90% of the states require trailers over 1500lbs have brakes. So, I think DC just assumes your safety minded enough to have brakes on your 3k lb trailer. Unhook your trailer and I'm sure it will stop fine.

Just be warned, when you rear end a mini van full of school kids and the cops inspect your truck and find you have exceded the capacity of your trucks brake capacity, your going to get your *** sued off for neglegence. But it sounds like your not worried about it.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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ok, so I missed the fact that you don't actually have a 7500 lb trailer, but with 6500 lb total weight between your trailer and camper, you really still NEED trailer brakes on that trailer, even if they are not "required"
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