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How Many Miles Are On This Truck ?

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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 09:54 PM
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How Many Miles Are On This Truck ?



-Purchased 2005 Dodge 2500 5.9 in June 125,560 miles on odometer from out of town Chrysler Dodge dealer

-Scanned with Launch X-431 Torque showed mileage: 174,603 stored in PCM (local Chrysler dealer confirmed storage location is PCM today)


-Subsequent scans with our Launch after driving more miles show the same mileage: 174,603

-We noticed our Launch would not pull VIN unless we selected Dodge, 2005, 16 pin connection, and then select auto scan at which point it would pull the VIN

- Our Launch scanner has read several other cars with exact match between computer and odometer and miles accumulate normally

-PCM and SKIM read "NO FAULT"

-Our Launch scanner does show one active Front Control Module (FMC) Adjustable Pedals Systems Relay Output circuit Open FAULT

-Local Chrysler dealer scanned with Wi Tech 2, mileage registered 0 miles

-Independent shop scanned with Snap-on Zeus, "Pre Scan Vehicle System Report" does not show mileage, also would not pull VIN electronically

-We are working with local Chrysler dealer to determine if PCM is original. The manufacture date was less than 30 days from truck manufacture date.



-Odometer appears to work normally


Possibilities:




-Odometerwas rolled back or instrument cluster was changed without reprogramming PCM correctly which crashed the PCM which is why it is stuck reading 174,603 and the Wi Tech 2 has defaulted to 0

-PCM failed in way that caused our scanner to read 174,602, Chrysler’s Wi Tech 2 scanner to read 0 yet is not triggering a FAULT code.



-Something else we have not considered



Questions:

-What other possibilities are we missing?

-Why does our Launch read 174,603 and the Wi Tech 2 read 0?




-Why is our Launch reading frozen at 174,603?


Quite the puzzle from our perspective, we will follow the evidence where ever it leads, there may well be non nefarious explanations we haven't considered, if so terrific, if not, we will redress that too.




The key is to determine actual mileage or learn this is not knowable but know which components have been tampered with or otherwise are inoperable.


Thanks,

David


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Old Sep 27, 2019 | 06:35 AM
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If possible contact one or two of the previous owners and see what they have to say .. also if you did a carfax report get them involved as they say they will buy a vehicle back if there is an error in what is reported IIRC
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