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6.7, torque loss w/manual trans. - why

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Old 12-04-2006, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by P.J
Dual Mass Flywheel?

That can be taken care of too.

I doubt ANY thing (but catastrophic failure) will add up to the $4,000 PLUS that is required to properly build an auto.
Don't forget the $1000 extra you pay for the auto to begin with!!! And the regular oil and filter changes it requires.

Does my '06 have a DMF? I really hate those. I had to replace the one in my '91 Ford when the springs started flying out of it. What a dumb idea..
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Originally Posted by Cowboy 6
Don't forget the $1000 extra you pay for the auto to begin with!!! And the regular oil and filter changes it requires.

Does my '06 have a DMF? I really hate those. I had to replace the one in my '91 Ford when the springs started flying out of it. What a dumb idea..

yep, you have a DMF
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Originally Posted by P.J
Uhhhhh. MADE by Getrag:
http://dodgeram.info/2005/index.html
"Getrag HD 6-spped manual transmission"

Someone needs to contact the webmaster of this site and tell him to correct his bad info and run it through spell check.
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Originally Posted by boostjunkie1

I have owned both the NV5600 and the G56! G56 Gets my vote for shifting better. Pulling better at lower speeds and Higher! Better RPM Range for Highway Towing with lower EGT's! ------------- AND For Gess sake, please stop bringing up the Sledpulling factor into these Manual conversations!! PLEASE-----That's all you preach! 99.5% of the Manual G56 Owners use there trucks for what they are supposed to be used for. Not High Stress Pulling of a RedNeck Infarction that is designed to STOP a MOVING OBJECT NO MATTER WHAT THAT OBJECT IS!!!!!!!!!!! ------- Prayer "Forgive the NV5600 Owners for there Manual Tranny Sin's o'Lord??! They do not realize the shame they place upon this community with the breaking of such NON-Part's Avaliable Tranny's!----------AMEN!"

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The G56 has a cast aluminum case. The entire case, not just the tail housing. In sled pulling it may be the reason for the demise and failure.

When I rebuilt my NV4500 trans this spring I installed an aftermarket iron tail housing to replace the factory cast aluminum tail housing. Anything to increase the stiffness of the thing should help on high powered trucks.
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Originally Posted by Hercules130
"Getrag HD 6-spped manual transmission"

Someone needs to contact the webmaster of this site and tell him to correct his bad info and run it through spell check.

Below are my feelings on that bit of news...........


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Please see page 2 of this LINK. The G56 transmission is manufactured by MB (Mercedes Benz).

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Originally Posted by RustyJC
Please see page 2 of this LINK. The G56 transmission is manufactured by MB (Mercedes Benz).

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I googled it for over an hour last night and could not find ANY evidence that Getrag makes the G56.

When I googled it with Mercedes it brought up a ton of stuff about the G56.


I too would like to see some real good evidence of who makes it!???!!!
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See the bottom right hand corner of page 9 HERE.

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So it can be said from that article that the G-56 is closer related to Eaton than Getrag?
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I too would like to see some real good evidence of who makes it!???!!!
Why don't you try reading the posts and the links then?

This has been beat to death for so long it has reached the status of "Ford owns Cummins".


It's not a Getrag transmission, it's not an Eaton, it is and always has been a Mercedes Benz transmission built by whoever got the contract. It's not any closer to or farther from any other manual transmission. It is what it is, an MB medium duty 6 speed manual transmission. It has its good points and it has its bad points, but, for better or worse it is what you get for a manual transmission in a Cummins powered Dodge truck.
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No way! Ford owns Cummins?
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Originally Posted by RustyJC
See the bottom right hand corner of page 9 HERE.

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That's the best proof I have read. thanks for the link

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Why don't you try reading the posts and the links then?

This has been beat to death for so long it has reached the status of "Ford owns Cummins".


It's not a Getrag transmission, it's not an Eaton, it is and always has been a Mercedes Benz transmission built by whoever got the contract. It's not any closer to or farther from any other manual transmission. It is what it is, an MB medium duty 6 speed manual transmission. It has its good points and it has its bad points, but, for better or worse it is what you get for a manual transmission in a Cummins powered Dodge truck.


I read those link's, but showing me that the G56 is offered in a MB truck does not prove that MB made it.

The link Rusty posted actually said who and where it is being made.
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I bet the manual will put more torque on the ground, I saw an article were they dynoed a new Duramax/allison with more engine torque, against a 610lbs. torque Cummins with a manual, and the manual Cummins put more torque on the dyno, even though the Duramax had more torque at the crank.
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it is all marketing. now that diesel are quieter and dont belch smoke, unless we make them , more and more ppl are getting into them, and what tranny sells the most? well 70% of vehicles sold in north america are auto!!

Plus with the uneducated buyer, what is an upsell?? You can have the g56 with 610 ft-lbs, OR you can spens another $2200 dollars and get 650 ft-lbs!!!


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