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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MR. GADGET
I will not attack you, but you have no clue what tire I was talking about did you?
So You are saying that BFG tires are cheep and junk?? Man I just looked you run "cheapo d-rate " ( your word) BFG?
OEM Michelin Junk to?
OEM Goodyear Junk to?
OEM BFG Junk to?
Love to hear what you think is good?
Please add to it don't just bash people...

BTW my stock junk Michelin tires have 53+ k on them and I was loaded gross at 20K for the last load. They work for me.



SO you know a lot about tires?

Dad and Gramps worked for more then 40+ years for Goodyear Tire and Rubber
Just going off what people say that build tires and worked for years doing.
My, we're sensitive today...

Any tire that fell apart as you say is cheapo junk by definition.

Did you ever see me write that BFG were cheap junk? The BFGs I run on both of my Rams are pricey, but worth it to prevent accidents/downtime.
OEM Michelin -
OEM Goodyear -
OEM Firestone -
OEM BFG - ??? always aftermarket for me

Have you read the posts?
I've already stated what I think is good - BFG AT KO (pick your size)... have not been able to overheat or blowout one in over 250K miles on two heavy service trucks (10K # 2500s). Is there better? Could be - and if I discover it, I'll buy it

Correcting misleading information is not "bashing".

I'm glad your Michelins have served you so well; they wear like iron but don't have the grip that I require. The e-rated OEM Goodyears overheated the sidewalls and exploded on the interstate...

Yes, I know more about tires than Joe 6-pack
I can see you do too, since you learned enough from Dad & Gramps to run Michelins.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by cquestad
I was saying that the OEM tire is not as capable as my aftermarket tire in every aspect. No disrespect to the manufacturer (or there workers) intended...

Goodyear/BFG/Michellen etc all make some great tires...and some not so great tires.

For example...IMHO...Rugged Trail...not so good. AT or MT great!

Only an opinion.
cquestad
That was not for you..
But I go along with you there are better tires out there and I would like to run some of the bigger sizes along with others that float 100% better in sand and junk but, Out of all the tires I have had big and small I like the ones I have best FOR WHAT I USE the truck for best, Yes if I go play at the beach then I drive the Blazer or take a Jeep to play in the sand. This truck just will not cut it for a tow rig / off road rig it is one or the other for me.
Yep the Rugged trails are not the best, I told them to get anything but them when I ordered the truck.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by XLR8R
My, we're sensitive today...
Yep
Originally Posted by XLR8R
Any tire that fell apart as you say is cheapo junk by definition.
:
And
Originally Posted by XLR8R
That's right - in the real world, you get what you pay for, so it's no surprise a cheapo d-rate will be even worse than the cheapo factory e-rates.:
No not really, sorry it was a BFG AT KO that fell apart
Originally Posted by XLR8R
Did you ever see me write that BFG were cheap junk? The BFGs I run on both of my Rams are pricey, but worth it to prevent accidents/downtime.:
Yep see one up
Originally Posted by XLR8R
OEM Michelin -
OEM Goodyear -
OEM Firestone -
OEM BFG - ??? always aftermarket for me
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Why, Yuk please tell us more, Give the people info that will help them make a good pick the next time they need tires.
Originally Posted by XLR8R
Have you read the posts?
I've already stated what I think is good - BFG AT KO (pick your size)... have not been able to overheat or blowout one in over 250K miles on two heavy service trucks (10K # 2500s). Is there better? Could be - and if I discover it, I'll buy it :
Yes I read your posts, I know you have BFG's it goes back to your comment about "cheapo junk by definition" and other than nail or cut I have not had a tire blow in the last 5 trucks and I know more then 500 to 1 mill. miles.
Does that mean the tires I have run are better? No just means I have had good luck with the tires that I have picked like you. ...
Originally Posted by XLR8R
Correcting misleading information is not "bashing".
If you are talking ply and D/E load please give us more info.
The load and weight are two different things from what I read.
And yes things have changed over the years.
Originally Posted by XLR8R
I'm glad your Michelins have served you so well; they wear like iron but don't have the grip that I require. The e-rated OEM Goodyears overheated the sidewalls and exploded on the interstate...:
Up tell lately they have not had a 265/70/17 Goodyears that I know of and yes I know they had a few problems with the DRW trucks and Goodyears.
Originally Posted by XLR8R
Yes, I know more about tires than Joe 6-pack
I can see you do too, since you learned enough from Dad & Gramps to run Michelins.
Yes we both may no a little more than most. That was a good one!!!! "run Michelins"
Jon
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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I just bought some Toyo's.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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this post is hilarious .

but NOW I am so confused I feel like this

I just bought some coopers that are D rated from Les Schwab and they said they are more than fine to run on my 3500. I thought I needed E's too when I went in to buy some new shoes and they told me otherwise.

this thread is drivinf me to drink except I am not smiling
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jezzhuntin
this post is hilarious .

but NOW I am so confused I feel like this

I just bought some coopers that are D rated from Les Schwab and they said they are more than fine to run on my 3500. I thought I needed E's too when I went in to buy some new shoes and they told me otherwise.

this thread is drivinf me to drink except I am not smiling
That is what I want to bring out. You need to know what you need in a tire and what its limits are. Most tire shops want to sell you something anything and if you don't get a tire then they loose but if they sell you a tire and it does not work for you then you loose.....
It would be a lot easier if when the tire junk is being posted we say what we want. Like What would be the best towing tire, or what is the best snow tire for towing, or whats the best mud tire if you never tow.
For what I do mine does fine but If I was in deep snow it is not the one or for sand on the beach it is not the one but works real good for me on the road and gravel/dirt roads.
Dont think that there is one tire that would rate best in everthing.

Pick 5 places and all 5 will tell you what it takes to sell tires.
NTB told me that P265/75-17 are the same as what I have now. BULL
Sears told me one of the P 265 just like what I got and after I laugh my a@@ off and said Bull and ask for someone that knows something about tires the guy told me that it would take a day or two to get the tires I needed and they know if they told me that, It would cost a sale.........
I tell you this because I did it for fun just like asking at auto zone for everthing I need for a tune up and that start looking plugs for me.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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Wow, sensitive posting with a lot of well thought out posts and opinions. And then some others that aren't so much. It's like a great big think tank!!
I wanted E-rated tires to help with the sidewall flex on my 37" tires. I know nothing, but common sense tells me that a larger sidewall requires a stronger sidewall. But I ran 315 BFG's on my 2000 CTD, and they worked great. Who's to say? Not I, and we probably won't get an honest answer from the tire companies either. So all we have is each other.... I love you guys... sniff sniff.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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It's your decision.

I suffered a blowout with 285-75-16 Bridgestone A/T's two years ago. $3300.00 damage to truck in maybe 15 seconds. Complete tread separation. Two other tires self-destructed here in San Diego and Baja. In defense of Bridgestone,they were "D" rated. Weight rating was sufficient but something went wrong. It's called insufficient load rating. My camper is on 24/7. I feel I'm atypical from the average camper hauler and tomorrow I finally have "E" rated Toyo's being installed. When I remove the camper I feel my present tires(same size,"D" rated BFG K/O's) are plenty strong. They are a vast improvement over the Bridgestone's excluding constant balancing. Three ply sidewalls make a difference. "E" rated BFG's of the same size are not an option. I'm looking forward to a round tire again.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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If anyone cares, I own a Tire store and we sell all different brands of tires. On my truck, I run D load tires. They are rated for a higher weight carrying capacity, at 65psi, then the stock tires are at 80 psi. IMO, for the majority of poeple that don't tow really heavy on a regular basis, the D loads are fine. Mine are 295 Nittos and they ride and handle better than the stock BFG's did. I may only get 40k out of them though, so I may try something different next set.

Monday morning I had a customer in for a flat tire, he had an 05 3500LB manual 4x4 RAm with 150,000 miles on it He said that he got 150k out of his original Michelins, so he just got another set of the same thing. I didn't see his original tires but I did see that he had brand new Michelins on the truck now. Even if they were the second set with 75k on them, I'd be impressed.

I'd prefer to run Michelins or Bridgestone, but neither make decent sizes.

You just can't live your life, worried about who's gonna sue you all the time. Try to pretend that this is still a free country, not a lawsuit happy, over governed one.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PWT05Dodge
Wow, sensitive posting with a lot of well thought out posts and opinions. And then some others that aren't so much. It's like a great big think tank!!
I wanted E-rated tires to help with the sidewall flex on my 37" tires. I know nothing, but common sense tells me that a larger sidewall requires a stronger sidewall. But I ran 315 BFG's on my 2000 CTD, and they worked great. Who's to say? Not I, and we probably won't get an honest answer from the tire companies either. So all we have is each other.... I love you guys... sniff sniff.
You sir, have an excellent attitude!
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 04:34 AM
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Gee whiz!!! So, Pet05, are you even more confused now?????
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 10:21 AM
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I bet if you look at the d rated Coopers...they are over 3200 lbs...rated.
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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Well, not really.

There sure is A LOT of different views on this topic. But I spent hours reading the old posts and from that I made up my mind already.

These forums can and have been a great source of information BUT they can also cause confusion. I wonder how many people make-up stories or exaggerate. I had the same thing happen on the Corvette forum when I owned my C5.

All-in-all, I love the forum as it helped and continues to help me make informed decisions. One just has to filter thru some stuff to get to that.
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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I was on an F-Body (Camaro/Trans Am) site before here and I definitely hear you there. Everybody just has their own opinion and you have to decide whos opinion you value more. I've been doing that here for several years....
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by pet05
All-in-all, I love the forum as it helped and continues to help me make informed decisions. One just has to filter thru some stuff to get to that.
You're too kind... I'd say you need some pretty tall boots to wade through sometimes!
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