This looked like a pretty good tool for monitoring vital functions. In particular, I want to monitor Trans Temp, EGT, and possibly boost. While towing, those seemed to be the most important.

I contacted the makers of the Scout. According to them, it will not monitor trans temp. Only % slippage. That's not very helpfull.

So, I'll be looking somewhere else for gauges.

 

I've also been looking at the Scout. Didn't realize it couldn't do tranny temp, major bummer. They do list coolant temp and fuel temp, wonder if you could just wire one of those up to your tranny temp sensor. Also on their website they have different features for 01-05.5 and 05.5-07. Apparently you can't get rail pressure for the 01-05.5?? Wonder why that is....

 

I talked to Jeremy at Quad about some of these issues. Apparently, the Scout functions quite a bit differently than the Commander when it comes to aquiring the data for gauge readings. Instead of a stand-alone harness that ties into the engine harness sensor locations and uses its own sensors for other readings, the Scout uses the data link connector to provide the data for the display gauges. This is why different model years will allow for different availability of data that it can display. I agree about the lack of a RP reading and trans temp is a serious flaw that will have to be overcome. Having no RP read-out for my 03 was reason enough for me to keep my Commander - and I verified with Jeremy that this indeed is correct. Up until 06, RP data was not available through the data link connector. I thought the fuel temp reading was cool but more of a novelty than anything else at this point.

 

Sounds like an Edge Attitude monitor, but I'm sure it's Quad's own design. I wonder why they wouldn't have separate plugs for the RP and trans sensors???

 

Check this thread an the replies from Qzilla to see if it answers your questions a little better. https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...a+scout&page=2

 

I installed a Bully Dog Outlook Monitor a week or so ago. The concept is the same, plug it into the OBDII port, and monitor through the ECU. It really was plug and play. And, it does display trans temps.

 

On the 06 and newer vehicles we do display transmission temperature, so the data you got is somewhat incorrect. This is likely due to the fact that its brand new and very little info has been released and only on a few models.

There has not even been a part # issued to anything other than 98-05's at this point and the 01-05 Duramax.

At this point we really don't have any competition in that arena as all the current monitors are for the 06 and newer trucks.

If you have a 600 series you will be able to get trans temp. Dodge did a mid year change and some vehicles will have more features than others. We are trying to get a vin# break so we can help customers identify exactly where the split happened.

Nope, these are not individual wires you are hooking up. This is a data bus based display. While we do have an external pressure transducer and our own turbo timer you can add, you cannot just hook something up to the transmission.

Except that the attitude cannot and will not function as a stand alone gauge, you must buy the juice to go with it. You get all the features and functions for 1/3 the price of a Juice/Att (other than the power adder of course)

We also offer an add on turbo timer and an external fuel pressure transducer, something no other stand alone gauge offers.

Well, it was called the Commander and has been on the market for roughly 4.5 years. I was chastised for years about how it was a pain to hook up to individual sensors and how bus data was plenty accurate and who really needs transmission/oil temperature anyhow.

All of which are available with the Commander.

So for those of you wanting to read rail pressure, and boost with an external box hooked up plus the ability to have fuel pressure, and a real trans temp probe I recommend you find a dealer that has Commanders in stock as it will do everything you are asking for.

Heck we even own a patent on it!

The new concept is to give as much data as possible with as little installation as possible for the least amount of money possible.

We hit every goal we had with the Scout plus we added features others cannot give you that are deemed important such as fuel pressure and transmission slip %.

Hope that helps. If you have questions about the Commander or need help finding one please let me know and I will hook you up with a dealer!

 

qzilla,
I was looking on the website for a downloadable operators manual to look at before I buy the Scout. There is not too much out on it so I was wanting some more info on it. Maybe I was just blind or is this even available. Also, the few places that do have the Scout available for sale only offer the monitor and not the EGT kit. Who has the EGT kit for my year? Thanks.

 

The info just started coming available in the last week to 10 days. There will be an online manual as well as more details very soon. I don't have an exact target date because these stupid ice storms are killing us here in TX!!!

All of the EGT kits will be the same. Any dealer advertising the Scout should be able to provide you with pricing on that kit.

The only things not available price wise would be the Turbo Timer kit. The FP kit is available directly from us and is 100% plug an play with the Scout. We are simply selling it direct to keep the cost of the transducer from being inflated.

Keep your eyes out or if you need some specific things answered ask them here or send me a pm with your number. I can help you with anything you have and I can work to hook you up with a dealer.

 

When are you going to be able to tell us which one each person has?

 

What changed in 06? I know my 06 has a trans temp reading, what could else might it have that others do not?

 

Seems like both Commander and Scout provide a lot of info -by different means. Is one approach any better or worse than the other? Is a boost reading from the map sensor more accurate than the same from the data link?

If I have the X2 with the upgrade wiring harness can I leave it so that the small pod can give me rail pressure - or will the harness be nixed an the x2 connected to the Scout in some other way?

 

What they decided to put on the data bus is what changed!

Based on my list here is what the newer trucks have that the older trucks do not:

trans temp
barometer
fuel level
rail pressure
ambient air temp

a host of dtc related information

Hoping any day we have a definitive answer.

They both have their pros and cons.

Pros for the Scout are the simplified installation, cost and shear amount of available data.

Pros for the Commander are that even with plug in modules you can still get accurate readings for rail pressure and boost and we can also provide rail pressure readings on the earlier vehicles.

Other than that, we feel the Scout is the best overall part for the majority of the people that will need this type of product.

The best would be a combination of both but, then the price point would be unattractive.

On a truck that is stock or a truck that uses a programmer they are the same.

On a truck that has a plug in box that does boost fooling or a stock truck or programmed truck with a boost fooler then the reading from the data link would not be accurate.

Yes, you can use the Control Pod to monitor an accurate rail pressure and an accurate boost reading. The X2 will not be able to be connected the Scout at all. They would operate as 2 totally seperate parts.

 

So Quad if you were to run the scout and say a SMARTY the scout would give an inaccurate reading of boost? Is that correct?

I currently have the X2 and the commander and I am happy with them. I'm guessing the scout is going to be designed to work with the adrenaline is that correct?

Just trying to figure all this out.

 

Good question??