I ran my EZ on #4 for a few thousand miles then found out about levels #5 and #6. Once I confirmed from Edge that my box did indeed have these two "hidden" levels, I went straight to level #6 and kept it there for ~8,000 miles untill the other day when the truck had to go in for some warranty work. The dealer called to tell me that the moisture I was seeing around the fuel rail was actually what I was affraid of...diesel fuel. Turns out they replaced all 6 injector O rings, and for whatever reason(s) all 6 injectors as well. I guess the gist of this thread is to find out from you all that run on #6 if you have had any problems at all, or leaking of diesel fuel around the injectors and/or the fuel rail??? I'm kinda concerned that #6 might be causing too high of rail pressures, thus the reason for the leaking. I also had them listen to the tranny for abnormal noises. Turns out they replaced the pressure plate and throw out bearing....and while in there, the clutch as well. When I asked the service guy about replacing the clutch (the TSB said nothing about that piece) he said "I want to make certain this thing is done right, and a new clutch is a part of that piece of mind I'm looking for".....COOL, I'll take that for free! So after 22,000 miles I'm starting fresh with a new clutch and injectors. The only complaint I have is that they forgot to R&R the alt bracket that's cracked pretty bad....oh well, when that breaks and takes out everything in its way, they can replace all that also.
Anyhow, any feedback (good or bad) from you all that run on #6 (preferably for some length of time) will be greatly appreciated!

 

I guess this is why Extended Warrantys cost so much now. I hear a little gas mixed in with diesel really makes them run like hell. When I blow up my motor, I'll let you all pay for it.

I don't understand what's so hard to figure out. You buy a truck then choose to add performance upgrades that void the warranty. Then fraudulently hide this from the dealer when something breaks. Step up to the plate and take responsibility for your own actions. I'm into juicing things up but I know as soon as I modify something I am the warranty dept. It's been talked about before on this list and should come as no surprise. Feel free to disagree. It would be different if he put on the box and blew out the rear end. He bought a box that raised pressure in the injection system and something (many things) gave up. If you have issues it should be with the box maker.

This was a long way from an @%& chewing. Don't be so sensitive.

 

I've come to the conclusion that it's nearly impossible to get a straight answer on this board. Either the response has nothing to do with the original question, is loaded with some kind of self righteous rhetoric, the person that posted is getting his/her *** chewed out, or the original post goes stagnant from a lack of interest....I give up.

 

My Edge box must be one of the newer ones because although I have all the designated settings available, if I try the #5 or #6 setting it doesn't do anything.. I do, however run mine on setting #4 which is 70hp and have had no problems yet....

zzsdad: What are you talking about???

 

The Edge tech guy told me that the newer production boxes will default back to factory settings if you try and go to #5 or #6. I just happen to have an early production box that has the 2 additional settings that IMO, feel to be a lot more than the "additional" 10hp that Edge says it is. It's either in my head or there is something more to #5 and #6 that they are not telling us. This must be the reason why they took those two settings out of the later boxes and will not, in most cases, confirm or deny that they exist unless you approach them the right way. I basically told them I knew what the jumper positions were and needed to know if my particular box had them. He said it will be VERY obvious if #5 and #6 are there...and it was! I also would like to know what zzsdad was trying to say in that post.

 

It would be nice to know what the rail pressure is raised to from level 4 to levels 5 and 6. If ~27,000 psi is the popoff limit of the fuel rail I wonder how closely levels 5 and 6 run to that pressure?

What sucks is that you being used to level 6 for so long, having to go back to 4 to possilby prevent this from happening again is going to be a nightmare, I'm sure.

Wish I had something more constructive to add to the thread, but I've not added any box to my '03 yet. Hope you find some useful information in the mine field of smartass remarks on here.

 

I would also like to know what the setting 5 & 6 rail pressures are. I had about 8000 miles on #6...mostly highway cruising and towing ~7800 pounds on the weekends. Over those 8000 miles I only really raced it twiced to see what numbers it would produce on my G-Tech. I bought a truck to be a truck, not a race car which I already have...thus the reason why I only went with the EZ for the additonal "safe" power. I did however have the truck in the shop for leaking injectors and/or O rings which they said were faulty....not sure if #6 caused that or not??? So far so good with the pumps, seem to be holding up just fine. I will say this, when I took the EZ off for the trip in to the dealer, it felt as though I had a 20,000 lb. trailer behind the rig....no power!!! I can't imagine driving around for any length of time without a box of some sorts. The EZ gives me that extra something that feels so good when you roll into the go fast pedal. I would love to know what a set of DD1's with the EZ would feel like???

 

I am sure there is a thread on this, but since we are talking about it, please help me get up to speed. I have heard about this hidden 5 and 6 but don't know how to use them. I have a EZ box with one of the prongs clipped off. Is this box capable of 5 and 6? It is dated 10/03 on the bottom. How do you get the hidden 5 and 6? Thanks

 

Do you know if Edge has ever made any mention of injector seal failure from running level 5 or 6? I imagine they took them off for a reason, but was it for seal integrity or to keep them from getting complaints of speeding tickets?

I could be wrong, but it is my understanding of the EZ that it only increases rail pressure some of the time. I.E. If level 4 raises the rail pressure to 24,500 psi, it's not running that much pressure at idle, but only when certain load parameters are met (I could be wrong on that assumption). IF that's the case, then I can't see increased rail pressures causing the problem becuase you're not going to be maxing them out all the time. Ultimately, that depends on if my assumption is correct and if so, how aggressively the rail pressures are increased from idle to full load based on the level you're running.

On a side note, I sure do miss my GN. One of these days I'll wind up with another turbo Buick or a TTA in some fashion (even if it's the motor in a Chevette).

 

After your free lunch at the dealer I would be real careful of returning the Box to #6. I think this is why your looking for the answer from other EZ users? It seems logical after reading Edges' warranty statement that they have modified the newer boxes so that these problems aren't around anymore.

 

I know I’m a seldom poster but I’d like to chime in zzsdad’s defense.

I think what he’s getting at is if the Edge raises the fuel pressure, and then you have leaks in the fuel line is that a manufacture defect? I think not. I don’t think DC designed our fuel system to have that pressure. If they did I think our trucks wouldn’t need the fueling box, because DC would take probably take advantage of that. This is not to say our fuel system couldn’t handle the pressure, but it’s probably not designed for those pressures.

Our warranty was designed to cover manufacturing problems. Thus if our bomb products directly cause a part to fail is it really DC’s problem or is it our own problem?

 

Being in the Service Field all my life now I have seen and heard all kinds of crap. I know I'm getting off the subject here, however a warranty is only as good as the dealer filing it! I have spoken on this subject many, many times. People always chime in and say " It's Dodges Warranty". True. But if it's "our" customer(the selling dealer)...then "we" can take care of things normally rejected under standard warranty policies. On the other hand if you try to sneak one past and get caught the penalty can be steep! In the case of turbov6joe if Chrysler calls the injectors back they may reject the claim forcing the dealer to eat the expenses! "They" can tell if the injectors have been abused by too much pressure....If that was to happen he is done with warranties on that Truck!

 

I have had my ez on #6 for about 30,000 miles with no problems until last night. I wonder if they sneaked in and removed my 5 & 6

 

We can all chime in and say what we want about warranties but I'm sure that the possibility of a $4000.00 transmission or major engine damage will cause any of us to pull mods off our trucks and see what we can get away with at the dealership!!!

 

Unless I'm missing something, he never said that he hid anything from the dealer. Hell maybe his dealer introduced him to the edge. Get off your high horses will ya.