How much air?
More air is better for a diesel? What is the best turbo air filter setup for max air?
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I would think so. The stock turbo is not going to push too much air, so get as much as you can. A ot of guys here are running AFE II's, and I hear a lot of good things from them about how they like them. I have a DIY CAI, with an airraid drop in replacement filter. One of the Diesel mags did a dyno run with stock air boxes and the replacement stuff on a stock truck, and there were very little gains. I hear that the stock airbox and filter are good up till 500 hp.
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Originally Posted by madhat
(Post 1436072)
I would think so. The stock turbo is not going to push too much air, so get as much as you can. A ot of guys here are running AFE II's, and I hear a lot of good things from them about how they like them. I have a DIY CAI, with an airraid drop in replacement filter. One of the Diesel mags did a dyno run with stock air boxes and the replacement stuff on a stock truck, and there were very little gains. I hear that the stock airbox and filter are good up till 500 hp.
Back to the original question. How to get more air without adding more fuel?Can the air fuel ratio be improve with more air in the stock form? I left a intake clamp loose once and man the low end power was a lot better, no trubo lag. I figured out real fast what I'd done and tightend it up. MPG gains are what I'm looking for not power or performance not that they won't go hand in hand. |
I read in a diesel mag awhile back about a guy that was trying to get the best mileage he could out of is powerstroke. He basically detuned the motor and put smaller injectors in, higher gears and built some crazy aerodyamic thing in the bed. He was getting 28mpg.
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Less fuel more air in air/fuel ratio?
Originally Posted by t-boe
(Post 1436340)
I read in a diesel mag awhile back about a guy that was trying to get the best mileage he could out of is powerstroke. He basically detuned the motor and put smaller injectors in, higher gears and built some crazy aerodyamic thing in the bed. He was getting 28mpg.
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The bigger injectors usually have a better spray pattern and therefore better atomization. The only things I can think of to get better mpg would be a better intake, exhaust, advance the timing (rokktech, tone ring mod) and possibly a small pressure box with some Flux 1's. I'm sure if you change the cam and port the head you'd get more air, but your looking a some serious $$$. How far are you willing to go?
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Better spray pattern/atomization.
Originally Posted by t-boe
(Post 1436448)
The bigger injectors usually have a better spray pattern and therefore better atomization. The only things I can think of to get better mpg would be a better intake, exhaust, advance the timing (rokktech, tone ring mod) and possibly a small pressure box with some Flux 1's. I'm sure if you change the cam and port the head you'd get more air, but your looking a some serious $$$. How far are you willing to go?
I can't see spending lots of $$$ to get better mpg. If a person were to "have to replace" the injectors what is the best options? Bigger or just better injectors? |
Dodge isn't going to spend the money either. A more efficient injector = more $$$. Most companies that make aftermarket injectors make them bigger. Don M's are probably the best, but they are more expensive. He's got his Flux 1's that are rated at an additional 40hp. DDP also does a good job on theirs and they're a little cheaper.
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I don't know much about injectors so please fill me in. What diffence is there between a good spray pattern and a bad one? If that is the only real difference?
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Originally Posted by Tree DR
(Post 1436702)
I don't know much about injectors so please fill me in. What diffence is there between a good spray pattern and a bad one? If that is the only real difference?
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I've used diesel in a spray bottle to help get a fire going. The finer the spray the quicker and better it burns.
Why isn't someone simply doing a spray pattern mode to increase the efficiency of a stock injector? |
Originally Posted by Tree DR
(Post 1436721)
I've used diesel in a spray bottle to help get a fire going. The finer the spray the quicker and better it burns.
Why isn't someone simply doing a spray pattern mode to increase the efficiency of a stock injector? |
I read in a Diesel Power Mag about the CP3 and how the triangular hole is made smaller on purpose to allow for just such better spray pattern and atomization.( Able to do this because of H.Pressures of Comm. Rail. A Lot of guys are doing a homemade CP3 mod by making the hole bigger to get more fuel. I wonder if their mpg will go way down? They say they get more power, probably do since more fuel? be interesting to see a dyno of before and after this mod.
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Originally Posted by Tree DR
(Post 1436721)
I've used diesel in a spray bottle to help get a fire going. The finer the spray the quicker and better it burns.
Why isn't someone simply doing a spray pattern mode to increase the efficiency of a stock injector? |
The CP3 mod is not the injector. It's the pump. We've got away from "How much air"? How well the fuel burns in the air is a big factor. Is more air really going to make any difference. Didn't the nonturbo diesels get good mpg but had no power?
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