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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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DM Flywheel and G56 trans questions

I am on my second clutch at 48k and this one is slipping when towing my 8k lb horse trailer on hills. I need to replace it but I do not know what to get. I am not chipped but I would like to be.

I am a vibration analyst for helicopters so I am concerned about getting rid of the DMF. I am uncertain I can maintain stock reliability in terms of longevity if I were to go with a SMF. The aluminum case will not like the vibrations the engine produces. Therefore I plan to keep the DMF unless there is an alternative to the DMF that will dampen vibrations. Please me let me know if something is available.

Here is what I want.

1. A clutch that will hold up to the power with the Smarty on level 3
2. Stock like pedal pressure and performance
3. A clutch that will work with the DMF
4. Smooth operating and not grabby
5. Reliability is a must!

Thanks for your input
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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 10:17 PM
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I would first be curious why you are going thru clutches so fast.

My dad has an 06 with 60K on it and regularly tows 8-10K thru Idaho/Montana and has no slippage at all.
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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 10:22 PM
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The first clutch broke at 28k. It was a pressure plate failure. Dodge replaced the clutch with a crappy rebuilt clutch. It has never been right since but it did not start slipping until the warranty was out completly.
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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 10:29 PM
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Gotcha..
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 07:58 AM
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I would get a SouthBend OFE and a Fluidamper! You'll be happy with that setup i think, i'm sure other people have this setup and will chime in!
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 08:00 AM
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You are correct - the Cummins generates a harsh harmonic environment.

Eliminating the DMF will expose the transmission case, bearings & gears to work hardening, fretting, etc. during low-RPM operation - but replacing the OEM harmonic balancer with a FluiDampr will mitigate the bad vibes.
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 08:30 AM
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I'll say it again, 1: DITCH THE POS (IMHO) DMF ---- 2: GET A QUALITY SMF CLUTCH ----- 3: INSTALL FLUIDAMPR AT SAME TIME

You said you don't want grabby clutch, so maybe a Con OFE? Don't get a Dual Disk, you don't need it anyway. I drove a buddies truck that had a Southbend CON OFE, it's been awhile, but I remember telling him I wouldn't have known it wasn't stock.

4: Live Happy with your new clutch.

Mike, do you think the OFE would be a good choice, you would know better than me. Oh, Mike, Jason did a 3rd gear 4WD launch and broke mainshaft in his NV5600. And he has been trying to get me to go to the Track-I don't think so.

Good Luck HelicoDR
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 09:12 AM
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Yeah Nelson - don't think he needs a dual-disk... and they grab pretty hard (not sure I like the way my 3250 DD makes the 37"s break lose in 4th).


p.s. you'll do fine at the track - just don't let Jason drive!
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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To go slightly off topic is the fluid damper needed on NV5600 trucks?
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 02:20 PM
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Thanks for the info. Where can I get more info on the fluid damper?
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AH64ID
To go slightly off topic is the fluid damper needed on NV5600 trucks?
Peter told me he'd put them on all the CTD's.
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 06:02 PM
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Interesting..

Too bad they are $$$
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 10:32 PM
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I contacted the company that makes the damper. They could not give me too much info on it. He said I should call Peter and ask him about it.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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Very strange, my 06 has 110,000 on it (stock everything) and has never slipped even grossing over 30K.

Must be the Smarty'sslipping them.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 12:59 PM
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How hard is it to install the fluid damper and how much are they?
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