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Racing4funn 01-29-2008 09:23 PM

cost too much $$ to mod a Dodge
 
Crap, I just moved over from a 06 f250 with a programer, exhaust, intake.

Every single part costs more for the dodge. Some expensive parts arent even needed for a ford. $450 valve body, $$$ fuel system up grade (if you care enough that your sucking the rails dry)

I'm mad that a valve body is needed and that the computer dosent control it thus making it adjustable with a programer.

Programmer costs more and then a pressure box is needed (if you care to add one, or care to have more power)


Ok crucify me now for talking about a ford but my point here is that I feel that prices are out of shape.

I paid $165 for a intake elbo and now I have to spend $320 for a dodge one?

ptgarcia 01-29-2008 09:27 PM

Sounds to me like you just need to do a little more research before you buy.

Billm2004 01-29-2008 09:27 PM

yeah maybe its more expensive, but your getting 1 hell of a motor! And i dont have to remove my cab to change out an injector!

Luvnacumns 01-29-2008 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by ptgarcia (Post 1918358)
Sounds to me like you just need to do a little more research before you buy.

X2!


Originally Posted by Billm2004 (Post 1918360)
yeah maybe its more expensive, but your getting 1 hell of a motor! And i dont have to remove my cab to change out an injector!

PRICELESS!!!![guitar]

Howling 01-29-2008 09:46 PM

How much are the injectors and larger turbo for the Ford?

cbrahs 01-29-2008 09:46 PM

i agree, do more shopping before you buy

the p-joke is a turd. the new 6.4 is so crammed in there you cant even see the motor.

cbrahs 01-29-2008 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by Howling (Post 1918424)
How much are the injectors and larger turbo for the Ford?

Don't forget the high pressure oil pump to fire the injectors! lol

BigTXDually 01-29-2008 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by cbrahs (Post 1918434)
Don't forget the high pressure oil pump to fire the injectors! lol

yeah, i mean come on Cat developed that stinkin fuel system in what the late 70s early 80s. At least on a 6.4 they finally got out of the stone age and joined us here in the present for fuel injection.

Minwy 01-29-2008 10:14 PM

The truth is all the aftermarket parts cost more for the dodge's. Intakes,exhaust,programmer, etc... fewer Dodge's out there so the makers feel they have to make more off of each part so they raise the prices. A programmer for the gm I used to have cost $299, Dodge, $600. Even though it cost more I still like my truck.

cbrahs 01-29-2008 10:16 PM

ford has perfected cramming 50 lbs of crap in a 1lb box. 9 coolers on the front, come on. that is crazy

Billm2004 01-29-2008 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by cbrahs (Post 1918508)
ford has perfected cramming 50 lbs of crap in a 1lb box.

lol now thats funny i dont care who you are. [laugh]

Seeder 01-29-2008 10:19 PM

When I bought my 06 it was 5K cheaper than a chev and 6.5K cheaper than a Ferd. So with that extra dough I saved I can build one hell of a truck if I want. You need to look at the forest not each and every tree, like they say "You cannot see the forest through the trees."[nonono]

-Seeder

cbrahs 01-29-2008 10:20 PM

its the truth! the battery tray on the drives side is part of the coolant reservoir. and the radiator hoses have hard plastic elbows with a large "C" clip holding them on!

Spooler 01-29-2008 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by cbrahs (Post 1918508)
ford has perfected cramming 50 lbs of crap in a 1lb box. 9 coolers on the front, come on. that is crazy


That is true, and they still blow up!!!!!!!!! They need a lesson in K.I.S.S....

RAMRODD 01-29-2008 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by BigTXDually (Post 1918490)
yeah, i mean come on Cat developed that stinkin fuel system in what the late 70s early 80s. At least on a 6.4 they finally got out of the stone age and joined us here in the present for fuel injection.

Actually the HEUI was a great advance in Diesel technoligy developed in the 90's
Racingforfun you can run a TST on the lower levels or a Smarty on the lower levels with a stock fuel system. And far exceed the power you were getting on the powerstroke you had. If you want to use the full power potential of the TST or Smarty that is when you need to do some fuel system upgrading.
At least your new dodge came with a 4 inch exhaust. that will make up for the valve body.

dku7 01-29-2008 10:26 PM

I have another theory. Being a tech. I know for sure that Chrysler is by far the hardest (always has been since the mid 90's) to obtain data from both their modules and their factory (engineering/programming) information. They are always the last to let go of this info and it took government legislation to do so - up to a point. When ford and gm release anything you may want to look at on a scanner or on your pc, chrysler only gives you 75% of it and the other 25% is a secret and hard to get.
My guess is the company's that design and build aftermarket performance parts (mainly the electronics) have a harder time doing so thus the higher cost to us. Just a guess though.

westexhunt 01-29-2008 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by Minwy (Post 1918501)
The truth is all the aftermarket parts cost more for the dodge's. Intakes,exhaust,programmer, etc... fewer Dodge's out there so the makers feel they have to make more off of each part so they raise the prices. A programmer for the gm I used to have cost $299, Dodge, $600. Even though it cost more I still like my truck.

When I compare cost (dealer) between the vehicle mfg., for the same product I cannot find any way to back up the above statement. A superchips, diablosport, etc programmer (same with exhausts, did not compare intakes there are too many options) costs the same for each make of the same year.

Billm2004 01-29-2008 10:35 PM

Maybe cuz the programs do more for power for cummins motors than fords..

see vid. LOL! J/K!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibhf8F_bX1A

madhat 01-29-2008 10:54 PM

As much as I'm a dodge/cummins man, the ford bashing is done.


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