Dwitt0187

we need something to make these engines turn massive rpm for sled pulling apps. i want to see something make them turn 5500 to 6000 so we can lock down the super street class and really put the nail in the coffin on the 12valves. that way you can generate the wheel speed going done the track. that a 12valve can make.

dodgeboy59td

6000 RPMS!!!!

Dwitt0187

oh hell the worst that could happen is sling a rod is this to many r's what do the 12v run at

Jetpilot

Yes..... There is a stand alone ECM that you can purchase and tune yourself. Last I checked cost was in the $8K range though

dodgeboy59td

and you have to be a master engineer to figure it out!

Bad-Duvall

Figureing out all the inputs would be next to inposible i would think.

Jetpilot

The ECM comes with software for programming but its still trial and error..... Many hours of dyno time would be required to use it to its potential.

Bad-Duvall

Is it a bosh ecm? and where can we do some reading on them?

Dan Marino

I dont think you have to turn massive rpms to stay with them IMO. I think it is more in a suspension setup. Take a look at those guys. How many of them turning the big RPMs are true street trucks? Ive never seen one. But how many of them have a tuned suspension? All of them.

But as for you and me - our 3rd gens are still street driven. What we need to do is get our heads together and figure out a pulling suspension for a 3rd gen. Dont take me wrong b/c I do feel RPMs make a difference. I just think that a suspension and an the right kind of auto tranny will do alot for us. Not just RPMs. I am with you though on getting the 3rd gens there.

t-boe

I'd want to tear down the motor and have the rotating assembly balanced to within at least 1/4 gram if not better before doing that. I'd also would want to look at a main stud girdle. It might not be completely neccessary but at least I'd feel better about running it that high.

Dwitt0187

yes i agree with all that but im talking what would it take let the engine turn that much. because i believe that the 3rd gen would comepletely take over if it had the ability to make the power a 12v can with the wheel speed a 12v can make in a lower gear becuase if its ability to turn so much more rpm. think about a 3rd gen has already proven we can get the power now we need the wheel speed.

Dan Marino

Dwitt,
Not that I can add much to this in a serious way...but I have often wondered what a 3rd gen would sound like turning those RPMS. I love hearing those guys turning 5's to 6's. I know there has to be someone that has one making those revs.

Don M

As RPM increases, tq decreases.

Ever wonder why the CR trucks are more than competitive to the 12v's now?

Tq VS RPM range

Dwitt0187

i agree 100% with you Dan and this dont have to be a serious discussion either i just think we could have so fun trouble shooting the situation. i want peoples opinions on it and maybe there is a way to take that $8k ecm and make one work then repeat it for others onto a stock blank ecm there is money to be made there just need the know how

Dan Marino

I thought about saying this in my first response to this but didnt know for sure.