I'm scared to hook it up! I have been reading about all these injector issues, warranty issues and was wondering if it is worth all the trouble to get a little extra MPG and towing power. I dont want to void my warranty by melting a piston or blowing an injector or having Dodge check my ECM and see that the Juice was hooked up. Is the juice a "downloader"? meaning can they tell it was on there if it isnt on there any more? I hate having this thing, looking at it, but being worried about hooking it up. I know it's one of the milder mods out there, and people say great things about it, but what do you guys think? This will be my first performance mod and don't want to screw anything up on my truck. Any opinions out there on this particular box and any personal experiences good or bad? Thanks in advance

 

Hey man, I was in you same shoes. Just hook it up, you'll love it. Your not gunna be "burning" pistons or blowing injectors. It gives you a range of power to select from. Just think, 5 levels of power at your finger tips. If you dont want all the power, dont pierce the pump wire...

 

I have had mine for 5-6 months And I have done the extreme-drag race, sled pull. If you are going mild with just this box and no other mods you will never hurt your motor...but if you constantly get on it at level 5 extreme, or go HOT JUICE you will puke your clutch. If you run it over 1500EGT for long periods of time such as a minute you will puke something on the motor.

Install it-you will be upset with yourself because you waited this long.

 

TexasRR - I have enjoyed my Juice and Attitude. My 2004.5 should be the same hook-up as yours. The pyro drill and tap was the only part I dreaded but even it went fairly smoothly. The Attitude lets you grow into the power as you need it. Keep your defuel limits set reasonably and you should be fine. I and others have thrown an occasional P2146 and P2149 code, (injector harness voltage or something which I merely cleared with a code reader), but overall the unit has been all its advertised especially with the on-the-fly adjustibilty and the built in guages. I hope you like it.

 

[ I and others have thrown an occasional P2146 and P2149 code, (injector harness voltage or something which I merely cleared with a code reader),
Mine did it before I was warmed up to at least 174 - do you remember when yours coded?

 

Can these codes be seen by the dealer as evidence of this performance mod? I only have 20,000 miles on my 05 and dont want to play with my 36,000 warranty coverage. My truck has been darn near flawless (except for door seal tear and now the passenger side A/C deal) and I don't want to jinx it!

 

Those codes are soft. They have dissapeared after 5-6 key starts, but....I have read a thread here before by a tech who says deep in the computer if they want to look long enough they can find whatever they want. I also have used my Predator to clear codes. It does what it says--it clears codes-but I wonder if they are permanantly etched in there somewhere--I dont know. Quit worying, install it, let it warm up to 174 and then have fun.

 

Anytime you buy a chip or programmer you run the risk of it messing something up or causing a warranty problem. The risk in my opinion is minimal and is basically in the hands of the driver. In my opinion if u are that worried about the warranty just wait and til it runs out. The juice is not going to hurt anything unless u drive like a wild man. Every dealership is different about how they cover warranty on mods. Thats just the way it is and its also a buddy thing. ( like if the service manager is ur good friend or something) Just my two cents. If it were me id get it and never look back!

 

Dan - Yes it wasn't fully warmed up, (usually cold weather days), and always occurred when during medium throttle upshift.

 

There are no pump wires to pierce on 3rd gens....

They dealer can't see if the box has been run ...if it is unistalled and there are no telltale signs...velcro...clean fuse box lid...etc.

 

Hmmmm, anyone know the part number for the fuse box cover? Or is there a better mounting place? Also, would they notice the plug in the exhaust manifold and wonder?

 

Hooked it up you will love it!

 

They'll definately notice the EGT sender in the manifold, and probably suspect, but a lot of people run a Pyrometer without mods, so they can't prove anything based on the Pyro sender.

 

what was your passenger side a/c problem?

 

There was once when mine shut completely off when it coded - it wasnt warm- and of all places I was sitting at a stoplight
I cured it by always running on stock untill its warm.