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Old 04-06-2008, 02:16 PM
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Who changes their own oil?

I decided to do my own oil changes, and today I crawled under my truck (06 3500 CTD), and saw that Dodge in their infinite wisdom has thrown a wrench into my plans! Instead of putting a simple drain plug in, they put some stupid thing that is flat, and has a square hole in the middle of it! I measured it, and it appears to be about .375" (3/8). Is this correct, or is it some metric thing? Is there a tool for this available to the public? I was going to make one at work, with a piece of 3/8th key stock, and weld a nut to one end. Any other ideas?? Thanks!!
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Use a 3/8" drive ratchet
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Um...... are you sure that you want to change your own oil?

I suggest buying a service manual first.
Inside the manual you will find a list of tools commonly used when servicing a Cummins motor.
It will even show you what kind of 3/8 square thingy fits into " that stupid thing that is flat, and has a square hole in the middle of it!"
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It's commonly known as a drain plug...
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its been that way for many, many years, and its almost flush with the pan so u wont shear it off...a very good design...although there was a short period of time where they were prone to cracking.....
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3/8 extension work best on the end of a 3/8 ratchet, I will say I have changed oil on alot of vehicles and the cummins was the first time on saw one like that, at first I did wonder if I need a special tool.
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I use a breaker bar with 1/2 to 3/8 adapter on it. Check drain plug for cracks because they will cause damage to oil pan if they are over tightened. If cracking replace plug and sealing washer asap. Hopefully before damage to oil pan has occured. If pan is damaged and plug leaks try a little mopar gray silicone on gastket will stop leak. Or pay $1000 to replace oil pan. Good Luck
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So,it is a 3/8 square hole. Never thought of a ratchet, since all mine are 1/2 inch, and at work. Thanks for the heads up!
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Do yourself a favor and go to genosgarage.com and check out the Fumoto drainplug. I have one waiting to go on as soon as I need to change my oil...
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Originally Posted by RollOver Pete
Um...... are you sure that you want to change your own oil?

I suggest buying a service manual first.
Inside the manual you will find a list of tools commonly used when servicing a Cummins motor.
It will even show you what kind of 3/8 square thingy fits into " that stupid thing that is flat, and has a square hole in the middle of it!"
BTW,
It's commonly known as a drain plug...



Just wait till he tries getting the filter off!
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I use an oil filter cap wrench on a long extension from under the truck to loosen the filter. Once the filter is loose, slip a plastic bag over it from the bottom and spin it off. Make sure you use a large open drain pan(yellow 15qt-walmart) and not the type with just a hole in the middle. Drain plug torque is 37ftlbs.
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Originally Posted by surfram
I use an oil filter cap wrench on a long extension from under the truck to loosen the filter. Once the filter is loose, slip a plastic bag over it from the bottom and spin it off. Make sure you use a large open drain pan(yellow 15qt-walmart) and not the type with just a hole in the middle. Drain plug torque is 37ftlbs.
Holy Crap, 37ftlbs? That seems excessive. Do you all use a torque wrench for the drain plug? I'd be seriously worried about stripping the threads or worse.

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Originally Posted by armourbl
Holy Crap, 37ftlbs? That seems excessive. Do you all use a torque wrench for the drain plug? I'd be seriously worried about stripping the threads or worse.

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Yes, and be sure to use plenty of elbow grease or it will leak.

Seriously I just tighten it nice and tight and call it a day. All it’s doing is plugging a whole, as long as the oil doesn’t leak and it’s not going to fall out you should be good. Oh, and like someone else said, use a wide mouth pan with a huge capacity, next time I’m planning on using a 5 gallon bucket.
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37ftlbs is right out of the service manual. That is what I have always used on my truck with no problems. I tend to over-tighten things so having a torque number eliminates the guess work.
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I upgraded to the Genos Heavy duty plug. I like it much better. I bought a fumoto valve, but kind of scared to use it frankly...
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Originally Posted by surfram
37ftlbs is right out of the service manual. That is what I have always used on my truck with no problems. I tend to over-tighten things so having a torque number eliminates the guess work.
The torque value is written right on the plug also. You really have to look to see it,but in tiny writing around the rim it says 35-40 lb-ft.


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