Is there any aftermarket stuff for the 6.7 yet?
04-05-2007, 08:59 AM
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Ok, listen up. I didnt mean to start any kind of conflict, just give you a heads up on a new design DIESEL block that may have potential problems doing common uprates. I didnt say dont do it, I said I wouldnt do it. Or do it to the the 6.7 that is. Uprates is my buisness, its what I do, its how I make a living. At the same time I dont want to lead anyone into huge repair bills either by telling them "Hey, you have the 6.7? I have the BullyDog for it, the Edge, AEM" and so on, and I do, I sell them. But I am telling you from the info thats in front of me right now, you dont want to go there. Now thats knocking me out of sales, but I feel better about it.
I am not a 'keep it stock' nay sayer either. I mod the crap out of mine and others. Its fun, I like it, they like, they spend the money with me and I make the money doing it. But I will draw the line at times.
400 RWHP, which measurements, SAE, STP or DynaJet? 400 is easy to get with DynaJet or a tilted machine. 400 SAE and your gonna spend some money. 350 HP from the 6.7 isnt RWHP, its crank. On the dyno its more like 290 + or -. Thats a fairly steep mod to get 400 on the ground on an engine that was not tested or validated with anything other than stock Cummins software. In fact no engine was ever validated that way, only their way. I can go on and on about validation and testing and the many meaings it derives, suffice it to say there testing is VERY stringent, but they dont know Edge from a moon rock.
Anyway, just two cents more.
I am not a 'keep it stock' nay sayer either. I mod the crap out of mine and others. Its fun, I like it, they like, they spend the money with me and I make the money doing it. But I will draw the line at times.
400 RWHP, which measurements, SAE, STP or DynaJet? 400 is easy to get with DynaJet or a tilted machine. 400 SAE and your gonna spend some money. 350 HP from the 6.7 isnt RWHP, its crank. On the dyno its more like 290 + or -. Thats a fairly steep mod to get 400 on the ground on an engine that was not tested or validated with anything other than stock Cummins software. In fact no engine was ever validated that way, only their way. I can go on and on about validation and testing and the many meaings it derives, suffice it to say there testing is VERY stringent, but they dont know Edge from a moon rock.
Anyway, just two cents more.
Does your engineer friend believe the 6.7 will be as durable/long lasting as the 5.9 if no mods are done?
Thanks.
04-05-2007, 10:20 AM
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I think the 6.7 is "factory" rated for a longer service life than the 5.9. I would think that any substantial mods to the 6.7 that didn't control smoke/particulate would probably stuff the DPF full in short order. Biodiesel might help some with this but..... Ya know, these trucks are coming from the factory with more power than most of us can use. I'm almost more concerned that Dodge, GM and Ford will keep trying to raise the bar with displacement increases or whatever to the point that you can no longer have a 3/4 or 1 ton diesel pickup that gets good fuel mileage. Talk of an upcoming 6.9 or 7.0 liter Duramax is out there. What's it gonna get.....13-14 mpg empty?! That sucks! I like my '98 gettin' 20. My' 04 got about the same. Fuel is pricey enough as it is.
06-26-2007, 03:49 PM
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Large Fan??
I am surprised nobody has brought up the fact of the enormous & loud fan that dodge has put on the 6.7 it looks to rob at least 25-30 hp to to mention mileage. Does anybody know of an aftermarket electric fan that can cool good enough???
6.7 w/ 6 spd auto ,Mega Cab 2500- 1700miles 14 mpg in city avg, going to have my first flash done tomorrow- hope that helps my economy! Call your dealer & give them your last 8 digits of VIV# to see if it needs updating
6.7 w/ 6 spd auto ,Mega Cab 2500- 1700miles 14 mpg in city avg, going to have my first flash done tomorrow- hope that helps my economy! Call your dealer & give them your last 8 digits of VIV# to see if it needs updating
07-02-2007, 01:44 PM
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After a brief stop over at Xtremediesel.com
Looks like Edge already has a Juice with Attitude out for these trucks....
Airaid is the only brand that I've seen to offer an Intake
and The Bully Dog is available for pre-order.
Looks like the fun begins! I'm excited.
I'm debating on trading my truck in or not. I was going to keep doing upgrades but, I really like the new ones....
Looks like Edge already has a Juice with Attitude out for these trucks....
Airaid is the only brand that I've seen to offer an Intake
and The Bully Dog is available for pre-order.
Looks like the fun begins! I'm excited.
I'm debating on trading my truck in or not. I was going to keep doing upgrades but, I really like the new ones....
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07-02-2007, 02:49 PM
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Extreme diesel has the edge/juice listed on their site but edge has not released them yet, but I can tell you that they are working very well. I have had my juice/attitude for about 3 weeks as well as my air raid and I am very pleased. This weekend I went out of town and averaged 18.5 mpg over 250 miles. I have an 07.5 2500 short bed 4x4 with the 68re and 3.73's..
07-02-2007, 03:37 PM
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After a brief stop over at Xtremediesel.com
Looks like Edge already has a Juice with Attitude out for these trucks....
Airaid is the only brand that I've seen to offer an Intake
and The Bully Dog is available for pre-order.
Looks like the fun begins! I'm excited.
I'm debating on trading my truck in or not. I was going to keep doing upgrades but, I really like the new ones....
Looks like Edge already has a Juice with Attitude out for these trucks....
Airaid is the only brand that I've seen to offer an Intake
and The Bully Dog is available for pre-order.
Looks like the fun begins! I'm excited.
I'm debating on trading my truck in or not. I was going to keep doing upgrades but, I really like the new ones....
S&B also has an intake. TS Performance has the MP-8 available, i think.
07-02-2007, 05:40 PM
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I have been doing some pretty intensive research on the can-bus system used in the 6.7 and I believe it has more redundant systems than the shuttle. If the ECM sees abnormal boost, fuel or timing it goes into limp in, if you defeat the "main sensors" there are back ups that initiate shutdown and on and on. Many of these are not apparent to a non star DRB, now that being said and everyone knowing how much Chrysler would like to tell you "warranty is void" ANYTHING made by man can be cracked and the 6.7 is no exception.
Quad and the aftermarket SEMA people will git er done but sadly I will not be able to play until I have 200,000 on the OD
The Quad commander gives me a feeling of empowerment with out the feeling of being my own warranty station.
Fred
I have been doing some pretty intensive research on the can-bus system used in the 6.7 and I believe it has more redundant systems than the shuttle. If the ECM sees abnormal boost, fuel or timing it goes into limp in, if you defeat the "main sensors" there are back ups that initiate shutdown and on and on. Many of these are not apparent to a non star DRB, now that being said and everyone knowing how much Chrysler would like to tell you "warranty is void" ANYTHING made by man can be cracked and the 6.7 is no exception.
Quad and the aftermarket SEMA people will git er done but sadly I will not be able to play until I have 200,000 on the OD
The Quad commander gives me a feeling of empowerment with out the feeling of being my own warranty station.Fred
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08-14-2007, 10:39 PM
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Remember the first cell phones??? that brief case you had to carry around with a corded phone hooked up to it, I remember my dads when I was a kid.
Have you seen the new Iphone, basically a computer built into a cell phone. Doesn't stuff you never dreamed possible from a phone right???
And some of you say, why do I need all that right?? All you need to do is dial and talk right???
Well that kind of thinking would have us all carrying around brief case cell phones still.
I don't care what anyone says, I simply cannont beleive that a company like cummins would make a new better stronger engine that cannot handle the abuse some people push it to like the 5.9 if not more abuse. Companies like that watch these forums about there products just to see what everyone is doing and they know if people like us don't play with them they are going to loose business. Why do you think that the mustang is such a popular race car for everyone and there mother to drag race??? Ford watched our one lightning site and even chimned in once and awhile asking what improvments we would make.
Joe
P.S. How many of your old timers thought you would never see a aluminum block motor be stronger then some of the older engines you grew up with?
Have you seen the new Iphone, basically a computer built into a cell phone. Doesn't stuff you never dreamed possible from a phone right???
And some of you say, why do I need all that right?? All you need to do is dial and talk right???
Well that kind of thinking would have us all carrying around brief case cell phones still.
I don't care what anyone says, I simply cannont beleive that a company like cummins would make a new better stronger engine that cannot handle the abuse some people push it to like the 5.9 if not more abuse. Companies like that watch these forums about there products just to see what everyone is doing and they know if people like us don't play with them they are going to loose business. Why do you think that the mustang is such a popular race car for everyone and there mother to drag race??? Ford watched our one lightning site and even chimned in once and awhile asking what improvments we would make.
Joe
P.S. How many of your old timers thought you would never see a aluminum block motor be stronger then some of the older engines you grew up with?
08-16-2007, 07:18 AM
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Thanks to this thread I will hold off a few years and see what develops with the 6.7. I appreciate the "Heads-Up" from Tim Holt and his information makes sense to me especially now that I know what his business is.
Also if it were not for those folks who challenged Tim's post I would have missed more info from Tim so I personally appreciate the challenges as long as it is kept in good taste and it was on this topic.
I take it the 6.7 is a different beast than the 5.9, are the two interchangeable as far as bolt patterns if someone destroyed their 6.7 and wanted to replace it with a 5.9 could they?
Also if it were not for those folks who challenged Tim's post I would have missed more info from Tim so I personally appreciate the challenges as long as it is kept in good taste and it was on this topic.
I take it the 6.7 is a different beast than the 5.9, are the two interchangeable as far as bolt patterns if someone destroyed their 6.7 and wanted to replace it with a 5.9 could they?