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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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Does anyone here run a synthetic oil or are you waiting for the engine to break in. If you are waiting for a break in period, how many miles is it.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 06:42 AM
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15k is what I recomend.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 07:42 AM
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Need your help fellas, I want to be a new diesel owner

I need your help fellas. I want to buy a Dodge Ram diesel, but I'm not sure what size truck or what generation (6.7, 5.9) would be the best choice. I'm 60, have both knees replaced, mechanically a dunce, and pull a 21' TT behind my Toyota FJ cruiser. The FJ does a decent job, but for my age I'm thinking a 5th wheel would be easier on these aging bones. Would a 2500 or 3500 cummins be your choice? Would I need a friggin ladder to climb up in it?
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 07:59 AM
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3500 rides unloaded the same as a 2500.I'd get a 08 auto 3500 srw long bed.2500 and 3500 height is the same.3500 srw has a overload spring.I'd stay away from a s/b because of turning radius with a goosesneck hooked and no extra room for anything else.With the price of new trucks used would not be my choice unless it was a clean under 20k price range truck.08s are smoother,exhaust brake,6 speed auto etc.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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I let my truck idle for hours at a time when on the road, sometimes i have to take a quick nap!!!!
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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And you use the ramp up idle feature?
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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Hey bud good for those that do but im here to tell you that most of the problems that people are having with the 6.7 are due to them not using them properly. The fact that " lots" of people let them idle a bunch with no problems says nothing about the fact that this is a real problem and letting them idle for long periods of time without making them idle up and putting a load on the engine every so often causes real problems. I have them come in all the time with clogged particulate filters or egr problems due to long idle periods. Yes I probably should have been more specific with what I said and for that I apologize for not doing so, but man you really should look out about attacking people that you don't even know when they are only trying to help others out. I give out my ideas, information, and opinions the way I do because I tend to see and deal with more of these problems than most diesel owners do. Trust me i have known more than my share of bad mechanics too, but unlike the majority of them I actually try very hard to find the cause of the problem and fix it the first time versus having the customer come back for the same problem and then they are really mad at me and thats not cool. I don't just scan it and do what is the "EASY" fix and flash it, I actually cost myself money and find the real cause of the problem even if it takes longer than the "flagged" pay time. I'm sorry for those of you who don't want to hear this but im doing this publicly so that you can all see how I feel about the information and suggestions that I give out. For those of you that appreciate it I say your welcome and for those who don't im sorry but thats just how it is.
Most of us loveya man. Thankyou!!!!!!!
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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And you use the ramp up idle feature?
I dont, but i work that crap outta my truck. Never had a dpf message.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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What is the high idle feature/benefit? Are we talking above 750 rpm's?
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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Hey bud good for those that do but im here to tell you that most of the problems that people are having with the 6.7 are due to them not using them properly. The fact that " lots" of people let them idle a bunch with no problems says nothing about the fact that this is a real problem and letting them idle for long periods of time without making them idle up and putting a load on the engine every so often causes real problems. I have them come in all the time with clogged particulate filters or egr problems due to long idle periods. Yes I probably should have been more specific with what I said and for that I apologize for not doing so, but man you really should look out about attacking people that you don't even know when they are only trying to help others out. I give out my ideas, information, and opinions the way I do because I tend to see and deal with more of these problems than most diesel owners do. Trust me i have known more than my share of bad mechanics too, but unlike the majority of them I actually try very hard to find the cause of the problem and fix it the first time versus having the customer come back for the same problem and then they are really mad at me and thats not cool. I don't just scan it and do what is the "EASY" fix and flash it, I actually cost myself money and find the real cause of the problem even if it takes longer than the "flagged" pay time. I'm sorry for those of you who don't want to hear this but im doing this publicly so that you can all see how I feel about the information and suggestions that I give out. For those of you that appreciate it I say your welcome and for those who don't im sorry but thats just how it is.
Any advice from a real mechanic is much apprieciated. I wish you lived closer to me, I could use a mechanic friend sometimes
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 05:16 PM
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I have been told by several mechanics that an hour of idling causes as much wear as 2 hours of workin the motor
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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I need your help fellas. I want to buy a Dodge Ram diesel, but I'm not sure what size truck or what generation (6.7, 5.9) would be the best choice. I'm 60, have both knees replaced, mechanically a dunce, and pull a 21' TT behind my Toyota FJ cruiser. The FJ does a decent job, but for my age I'm thinking a 5th wheel would be easier on these aging bones. Would a 2500 or 3500 cummins be your choice? Would I need a friggin ladder to climb up in it?
Welcome Randolph, from your post count it looks like you're a new forum user. As for a truck, I'm 56 years old and have a fifth wheel, which is a much nicer stay at deer camp than my old 19' tongue pull was. I have had duallies up until now, but needed to get an auto and srw so my wife could drive it, so I got the truck in my signature. If you're going to get a fifth wheel, I recommend you get a 3500, especially if you're going with srw. Fifth wheel trailers place a fair amount of weight right on the rear axle, so you can exceed the rear axle weght rating of a 2500 real quick. Running the 5'ver in my signature, the pin weight is a littl over 1700 lbs. empty; after loading up the water tanks and propane bottle, pantry, refrigerator, etc., that pin weight runs close to 2000 lbs. which is a bit much for a 2500 truck (stock of course). Some guys uprate their 2500's by putting on an extra rear spring or air bags, 19.5" wheels & tires, etc., but since a 3500 doesn't cost any more than a 2500 for srw (at least in my area), it is easier to just get the extra rating to begin with. Just some observations from my experience, YMMV. Godd luck in your new truck shopping, hope I was of some help.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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I'm also new to the dodge diesel and have 6.7 liter. I'm aware of the high idle feature as well, but not once was it mentioned that we were not to let idle more than ten minutes during the purchase of the truck or during the several times we've had it serviced..

I really find it hard to believe that Chrysler would not mention this is up front if it as important as is seems. I guess it's just ignorance, over the workings of a diesel engine.

Not an attack on on you Bigtx, as I'm sure definitely you're closer to the action than most of us. I'm just amazed at the workings of Chrysler corp.
Well unfortunately unless the techs at your local dealer or any dealer for that matter dont keep up to date on all of the info available then they wont know unless they read up or go to one of the newer schools targeting the 6.7. Trust me you learn a lot at those schools. And another thing, today when I did a Flash update on a 6.7 the new flash allows the computer to recognize idle time better and hopefully will help solve some of the problems with letting the 6.7 idle. So if it works correctly then the idle times without causing problems should go up. Also to explain better im not saying that letting the engine idle for more than 10 minutes every now and then will cause big problems but if you do like my dads tool pusher does on rig locations and lets it idle for hours almost every day on a location then yeah you are going to have big problems. He found out the hard way by having to drive a long way to a dealership to get his truck out of LIMP MODE because the soot accumulation in his particulate filter was so high that it dang near shut his truck down. One other thing remember that a 6.7 will not (or at least it should not) go into regen while parked. So hopefully you wont have any fire problems associated with the 6.4 "Power Stroke".
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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Thanks for the imput GRANDPASRAM & HOUNDOG. Do you find the QC has enough room in the back for adults? If I do get one it'll be a 3500 swd so my wife will feel comfortable driving it also. Looked at new 5th wheels, then added the cost of a new diesel truck, It $100k. For that amount or a little more, I can get a motor home. I'm gettin' dizzy with all this thinking.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BigTXDually
Well unfortunately unless the techs at your local dealer or any dealer for that matter dont keep up to date on all of the info available then they wont know unless they read up or go to one of the newer schools targeting the 6.7. Trust me you learn a lot at those schools. And another thing, today when I did a Flash update on a 6.7 the new flash allows the computer to recognize idle time better and hopefully will help solve some of the problems with letting the 6.7 idle. So if it works correctly then the idle times without causing problems should go up. Also to explain better im not saying that letting the engine idle for more than 10 minutes every now and then will cause big problems but if you do like my dads tool pusher does on rig locations and lets it idle for hours almost every day on a location then yeah you are going to have big problems. He found out the hard way by having to drive a long way to a dealership to get his truck out of LIMP MODE because the soot accumulation in his particulate filter was so high that it dang near shut his truck down. One other thing remember that a 6.7 will not (or at least it should not) go into regen while parked. So hopefully you wont have any fire problems associated with the 6.4 "Power Stroke".
Makes me wonder how they could miss something like this during the testing of these vehicles.

I'll keep your advice in mind.
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