6.7 Fuel Additives
Okay - I don't have a 6.7 with all the new emissions equipment, so I'm coming at this from a different perspective. Recent fillups of my old 1996 12-valve Ram have been costing well over $85/tank. In 6.5 years of ownership, having NEVER dumped anything but the avalible diesel fuel at the pump into the tank, I have never had a fuel gel issue, a turbo sludge issue, or any other fule system issue other than the return line corrosion which resulted from road salt. At $85+ per tank, I can't afford anything else getting dumped into my truck - which is exaclty what happens to people who routinely use additives. It's called a marketing scheme...they sell you on what won't happen, preying upon the consumer. When in reality, if the truck is left alone and operated as it was intended, it will be fine.
Okay - I don't have a 6.7 with all the new emissions equipment, so I'm coming at this from a different perspective. Recent fillups of my old 1996 12-valve Ram have been costing well over $85/tank. In 6.5 years of ownership, having NEVER dumped anything but the avalible diesel fuel at the pump into the tank, I have never had a fuel gel issue, a turbo sludge issue, or any other fule system issue other than the return line corrosion which resulted from road salt. At $85+ per tank, I can't afford anything else getting dumped into my truck - which is exaclty what happens to people who routinely use additives. It's called a marketing scheme...they sell you on what won't happen, preying upon the consumer. When in reality, if the truck is left alone and operated as it was intended, it will be fine.
Now, in all fairness, this may not be entirely the work of Power Service. My uncle is also notorious for getting diesel anywhere he feels like it, to include every little po-dunk mom and pop fill-up station in the middle of nowhere. My father and I both prefer to fill up at truck stops whenever possible to get the freshest fuel possible. This could be a reason why we have never had any fuel issues in the past, yet my uncle still fills up at the mom and pop places with his new truck. Maybe the Power Service is helping just in the sense that it is cleaning up the old diesel he is putting in the truck from the small fuel stations. Maybe the new truck is just a better running motor. Who knows. Me, I will keep spending an extra $15 every 10 tanks of fuel for the added peace of mind.
Re: Broncohound You're free to disagree - i will not claim to be an expert. I don't drive the miles that many people do with my truck. All I know is I've had no problem the way I've run it.
I worry a bunch about whether or not there is enough of the right additives in the fuel we use everyday. There is no national standard regarding what additives are used in diesel fuel, although there are some loose regulations regarding lubricity. But what about all the other crap like anti-gelling ability and cetane numbers and all that stuff. To my knowledge, there is no universal standard that the refineries are forced to abide by.
Add that to the fact that it is common knowledge now the the additives are no longer placed in the fuel at the refinery level, and you have a recipe for disaster if you ask me.
I have heard of some fuel distribution centers requiring the drivers of each truck to add the additives in each load before it is sent to the gas stations. That sounds like a nightmare to me. What if the guy is in a hurry, is a newbie, or just plan don't know what he doing? How do we know what is supposed to be in there in fact is?
I worry about using an additive because I don't want to void my warranty, but I think with the amount of places out there makiing additives that are ULSD compliant, I can't see how I could go wrong. Most all major additve manufacturers like Stanadyne and Power Service make ULSD compliant additives that are not supposed to harm NOx scrubbers and DPF's.
I just don't want to do anything that would HURT my truck. I guess if it does not help it, I don't really care, I just don't to hurt it, and the long term benefits of using an additive may outweigh the lack of immediate visible results.
I guess I just want some additive chemist to hold my hand and walk me over to the side of my truck, dump the additive in there with me, and tell me it's gonna be alright!!!!!!!
neelre
Add that to the fact that it is common knowledge now the the additives are no longer placed in the fuel at the refinery level, and you have a recipe for disaster if you ask me.
I have heard of some fuel distribution centers requiring the drivers of each truck to add the additives in each load before it is sent to the gas stations. That sounds like a nightmare to me. What if the guy is in a hurry, is a newbie, or just plan don't know what he doing? How do we know what is supposed to be in there in fact is?
I worry about using an additive because I don't want to void my warranty, but I think with the amount of places out there makiing additives that are ULSD compliant, I can't see how I could go wrong. Most all major additve manufacturers like Stanadyne and Power Service make ULSD compliant additives that are not supposed to harm NOx scrubbers and DPF's.
I just don't want to do anything that would HURT my truck. I guess if it does not help it, I don't really care, I just don't to hurt it, and the long term benefits of using an additive may outweigh the lack of immediate visible results.
I guess I just want some additive chemist to hold my hand and walk me over to the side of my truck, dump the additive in there with me, and tell me it's gonna be alright!!!!!!!
neelre
Greetings All:
Well, I finally broke down and added some Power Service to the tank of my cummins 6.7!!!!!
I don't want to sound like a dork, but I would swear that I did not hear as much valve train noise as I did when I was running ULSD only.
The Power Service seems to have made it run a bit quieter!!!!!
Maybe I am just kidding myself, but we'll see what happens later down the road. I might be on to something. Want to see if gas mileage gets better.
i just added 8 ounces to 35 gallons of diesel. It is less than what the back of the bottle calls for, but I was being conservative. Bottle says add 8 ounces to 25 gallon, and I added 8 ounces to 35 gallon.
I called my Dodge dealer, and they seemed not to care about whether you add an additive or not. They said as long as it was approved for ULSD and 2007 vehicles, it should not be a problem.
Just wanted to give y'all an update.
neelre
Well, I finally broke down and added some Power Service to the tank of my cummins 6.7!!!!!
I don't want to sound like a dork, but I would swear that I did not hear as much valve train noise as I did when I was running ULSD only.
The Power Service seems to have made it run a bit quieter!!!!!
Maybe I am just kidding myself, but we'll see what happens later down the road. I might be on to something. Want to see if gas mileage gets better.
i just added 8 ounces to 35 gallons of diesel. It is less than what the back of the bottle calls for, but I was being conservative. Bottle says add 8 ounces to 25 gallon, and I added 8 ounces to 35 gallon.
I called my Dodge dealer, and they seemed not to care about whether you add an additive or not. They said as long as it was approved for ULSD and 2007 vehicles, it should not be a problem.
Just wanted to give y'all an update.
neelre
That is the same exact reply I got from my tech the only difference is each tech usually has their own preference on witch one to run so I am going to try Stanadyne I have been using diesel kleen and I have noticed less regens and I get about 12 to 15 in the mountains depending on how I drive and 16 to 18 on hwy.
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