2500WHITERAM

Edited by Admin...EVER HEARD OF gm "SYNCHROMESH"...ALL BIG THREE HAVE THEIR OWN PATENTED FLUIDS.
THE VALVOLINE ATF-4 IS JUST MAXLIFE. BEEN DOING THIUS BUSINESS TOO LONG....OL

edge600

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Furthermore, Valvoline makes the ATF+4 that Mopar puts their name on. Valvoline also makes the 15w40 Mopar puts their name on. Edited by Admin

edge600

Also, Fords back IN THE DAY used type FA, but not in over 20 years WHITERAM

TexasCTD

I think somebody is about to get a nastygram from the moderator.

Hannibal

Chrysler Group Licenses its Transmission Fluid, ATF+4(R), for Retail and Commercial Usage
AUBURN HILLS, Mich., Aug. 12 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- In response to marketplace demands and evolving vehicle technology, Chrysler Group has established a licensing program for its advanced synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid, ATF+4(R). This program will allow ATF+4 to be made available at retail outlets and through independent repair facilities for Chrysler, Jeep(R) and Dodge vehicle automatic transmissions, beginning September 1, 2005.
A first in the industry, Chrysler Group chose to work with the Lubrizol Corporation to develop a transmission fluid that sets new standards of performance in the marketplace and provides significant reduction in component wear. This technology also offers superior temperature performance, providing consistent shift quality and exceptional friction modifying properties. The durability of ATF+4 has been successfully proven through more than one million miles of testing in severe environments and an intensive Chrysler Group validation process.
ATF+4 will be implemented through issuance of licenses to major and independent oil companies. Each blender and re-brander involved in the production and sale of ATF+4 will be licensed, facility accredited and periodically market-sampled to ensure consistent quality. Its quality level will be closely monitored by the Center for Quality Assurance, through each step in the fluid's progress from license through commercialization.
"The benefits of licensing our ATF+4 product will allow the millions of Chrysler Group owners with vehicles still on the road to receive transmission fluid that is designed exactly for their vehicle," said Dennis Florkowski, Chrysler Group Senior Specialist/Supervisor - Chrysler Fluids Group. "Using ATF+4 ensures a longer transmission life with regular servicing as described in the vehicle owner's manual."
ATF+4 is approved for use in older transmissions and will be utilized in all future Chrysler Group vehicles. The previous MOPAR ATF+3 formulation will be discontinued and ATF+4 is recommended for all transmissions filled with ATF+3.
Only certified ATF+4 is recommended for service of Chrysler Group vehicles. The use of automatic transmission fluids other than ATF+4, including those claiming to be like ATF+4, could result in lower levels of performance and jeopardize transmission life.
The ATF+4 licensing program will be initiated in North America and subsequently expand worldwide. Program license and administration will be managed by the Center for Quality Assurance, located in Midland, Michigan.
The ATF+4 Automatic Transmission Fluid formulation is exclusive to DaimlerChrysler and ATF+4(R) is a registered trademark of DaimlerChrysler Corporation.

edge600

I was half wrong. Sorry.

Hannibal

There's a big difference between transmission fluid that the oil manufacturer claims can be used where ATF+4 is specified and real licensed and certified ATF+4. Not quite sure what you're laughing about...

kry226

The real question is this: Manufacturers have been writing ATF-4 on their bottles almost since it came out. Now we know it has been licensed, but how is a consumer to know whether they're buying the officially licensed stuff or the "universal" type stuff that may void the warranty should DC pursue fluid analysis?

TAS05CTD610

That's my question too, is how do we really know. Although I'm in a boat too where a lot of trannys that get rebuilt the guys are recomending the Dextron 3 and such, cause the +4 has so many additives and all in it. I understand it's synthetic, but I think you could get away with those. It all depends on what you want to spend. I got a case of 6 gallons for 100 bucks, yeah I know like 5 dollars a quart but I figured I'd be good till around 50,000 miles with that, then when I change trannys I'll be good to go.

Yeah some people have a short fuse in here. Were all in here to learn together. Most of us have been there, done that, so if somebody says hey that's not true, they normally have the info to back it up. Chrysler is the only one that has the lisence to ATF+4 and the way they charge others to manufacture it, doubt many will pay what DC wants

I say a bad joke and the mods are on me like soft butter on a bagel (sorry just ate my breakfast)

Lary Ellis (Top)

Pretty obvious a couple of you guys forgot where you were at when you posted some of this stuff.

Let me make this real simple for everyone, If you post in a hateful manner toward each other, you will be removed permanently from this website. If you post with a little respect then we will never have any issues between us.

So that means the choice is completely yours on whether you wish to stay or go. We will not tolerate that type of behavior on this site, never have, never will.

To those of you with the obvious intelligence to carry on a conversation with out sniping at each other, thank you. Your input is always welcome here.

Hannibal

You'll know it's real ATF+4 when it says ATF+4 on the front of the bottle as in the picture. It will be the fluid's name. Not simply "suitable for use where ATF+4 is required or recommended" in little notes on the bottle or website. If the oil manufacturer even mentions the Magnuson Moss Act, your warranty is in question with their product. The fluid will have to be licensed and certified to be labeled and named ATF+4 and will likely state that on the bottle. As soon as I see some on the shelves, I'm going to buy a case of it.

edge600

The Valvoline # is vv346. I ordered some yesterday. Its here and Im about to do a fluid change with it.--- Brad.

RamNu2

I am lost now on the ATF+3 or ATF+4 thing what is the difference and why is there a need for upgrade if product was desinged under say ATF+3 standards. Will it not operate the same as intended or last as long as intended. I am new to the diesel market but loving every minute I can learn fronm the mistakes or great finds this community has to offer.

Hannibal

ATF+4 is synthetic. ATF+3 is not. Other than that I would think they are very similar for ATF+4 to be recommended by DC for use in older transmissions that origionally required ATF+3. Just an assumption...

Equalizer 2

About time it was available. I changed my transfer case and all I could find was Valvoline MaxLife that stated it was suitable for use in place of ATF+4. I ended up paying through the nose to the tune of $21 for 2 quarts from the local dealer. OUCH!