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Dwitt0187 02-29-2008 11:19 AM

signs of bad pressure relief valve on rail????
 
what are some signs of a bad pressure relief valve im trying to figure out a hard start issue and was woundering if the relief valve would have anything to do with it. the injectors are good i know this is a common problem. the truck cranks for a long time before starting but once started truck runs fine.
thanks is there a check valve anywhere in the fuel supply side of the fuel system. any advise

danny

06megacabman 02-29-2008 04:29 PM

Here's some advice from a DTR member I just got yesterday on my boost issue but relevant to your question

If your not getting enough fuel, or rail pressure you'll also be low on boost.
You can easily check the rail pressure releaf valve. It the long cylinder going to the fuel return hose by the MAP sensor on the rail. If you unbolt that & start up the truck, look to see if you have fuel coming out of that. If you do, you have a bad releaf valve. This will cause low injection pressure & low boost.

dodgezilla04 02-29-2008 04:41 PM

you dont even have to start it. just remove the connection(engine off) if there is fuel present, the valve is bad.

longbed 02-29-2008 06:18 PM

Take the banjo bolt off the top of the valve on the rail? I would like to test mine.

jballou 02-29-2008 07:33 PM

I respectfully dissagree with the above "test" of the rail relief valve.

The top of the valve is also the fuel return from the rear injector that goes to the filter cannister, when there is fuel that needs to be returned it will still sit on top of the valve. Giving you a false test.

Solution is to test it like the FSM ( I have no idea ) or have a gauge befor and after you place a test bolt in the top and compare the numbers.

I had a false test when it was believed that my valve was bad when infact it was A-ok and a bad programmed xzt was the offender.

Believe what you will, just be informed and do your research, that is it.

ian515 02-29-2008 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by Dwitt0187 (Post 1972787)
the injectors are good i know this is a common problem. the truck cranks for a long time before starting but once started truck runs fine.
danny

I would say TRIPLE check the injectors....but I am just saying that because I am recently coming off a looooooong battle with a cold start/hard start issue, that ended up being the injectors (I did have the relief valve replaced, it didnt do anything for the cold start).

Josh Gould 09-20-2015 03:04 AM

I've seen a lift pump go bad and send stuff through the rail and stick in the relief valve. The truck will start but will have no rail pressure that may not be the case here. I would check that first though.

JOSH

BigIron70 09-20-2015 10:57 AM

You need a special tool to check this valve, Miller 9013

Fuel Pressure Test Adapter | SPX Miller Special Tools | 9013

freight train 02-26-2018 06:05 PM

Big iron do you use that Miller 9013 in conjunction with a Miller 6977 gauge kit?

nm2769 02-26-2018 07:10 PM

A quick way to check if it is bypassing continuously is to start the engine cold and let it run for minute or two. If its bypassing through the PRV it will get hot in a short time. Be careful it can get really hot if it has a bad internal leak. This wont tell you if the pop off pressure is low but I haven't seen one with low pop off pressure that wasn't getting hot. They seem to go hand in hand most of the time.

Jeff in TD 02-27-2018 09:47 AM

At about 2:50 in this video they show testing the relief valve.


I would also say remeasure the injector return flow, even if you are sure they are good...


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