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cincydiesel Sep 24, 2008 11:00 AM

Metal frags in the rearend
 
This is not a war story!!!![laugh] Anyways upon replacing the fluids in the rearend I found a little bit of metal frags in the oil. Is this something to be extremly worried about or is this a common thing? How much torture can these 11.5 take?

welndmn Sep 24, 2008 11:24 AM

Metal Dust, Normal.
Something big enough to be called a frag, is a problem.

XLR8R Sep 24, 2008 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by cincydiesel (Post 2220651)
This is not a war story!!!![laugh]

... did I ever show ya my old wrestling injury? :o








X2 - powder is normal, but pieces you can feel between your fingertips are bad...

cincydiesel Sep 24, 2008 12:24 PM

Not a big piece just very small particles. Sounds like all is well... Thanks

dodgezilla04 Sep 24, 2008 12:53 PM

if you are changing it at the 15k mile intervals like dodge wants, you will see alittle shiny material in the oil... no worries.

CTDinMT Sep 24, 2008 03:29 PM

What kind of fluid are you running? I have run Amsoil and Royal Purple 75W90since the first change and I have had nothing but the grey "sludge" looking stuff on the magnet and there are still machining marks on the gears at 75K.

RAMRODD Sep 24, 2008 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by cincydiesel (Post 2220651)
How much torture can these 11.5 take?

I have done extensive off road, overloaded, sled pulling testing the 11.5 is strong. [coffee]

redeyedracer Sep 24, 2008 04:49 PM

X2 - powder is normal, but pieces you can feel between your fingertips are bad...<<<<< I agree, if ya cant feelit its all good!!!

EDR Sep 26, 2008 12:47 PM

Just replaced my fluids as well and I found the same thing.

I like your reference to ol' #85 . . . talented - but what an ego!

cincydiesel Sep 26, 2008 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by EDR (Post 2223334)
I like your reference to ol' #85 . . . talented - but what an ego!

That guys a nut job but fun to watch.

C Schomer Sep 27, 2008 12:48 PM

DC runs them way too low on lube for my liking. I overfill mine with 5 qts RP 85-140 and even the black smudge is nearly gone from the magnet. I've learned from the past - it's best to minimize the that, too. That smudge also contains wear metal and it can't show up in a UOA cuz it's on the magnet. I had an 80 that always got a quite a bit of black smudge on the magnet and the UOA were always outstanding but I had to put bearings in it in not so many miles. It might be normal but it can be better. Craig

EDR Sep 28, 2008 04:52 PM

Craig, How do you get five quarts in? Park your truck on a slope so the fluid level is lower at the fill opening?

Are there any downsides to overfilling the differentials?

Just curious.

XLR8R Sep 28, 2008 07:44 PM

5 quarts is the correct fill for the rear diff with a Mag-Hytech cover... 3.5 for the front AAM. Overfilling the diffs can be a good way to push gear oil past the axle seals.

GaCamper Sep 28, 2008 07:59 PM

Sure would 7be nice if they put a magnet drain plug in the bottom of the diff. Since things seem to settle to the bottom...

cincydiesel Sep 29, 2008 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by GaCamper (Post 2225696)
Sure would 7be nice if they put a magnet drain plug in the bottom of the diff. Since things seem to settle to the bottom...

Just take yours out and magnatize it with a 12v battery. Pretty easy to due


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