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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 05:13 AM
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Yes but.......They have to get a special sticker that says so to be legal in those emission specific states such as California.
Remember with the HO's you could bring one to a "tree hugger friendly" state if it had 7,500 miles as it would be considered used. Any one know if the same rules apply to the 600's?

Maynard, if you goto Edmunds and price out a new Cummins, one of the options are choosing CA, the eight states I mentioned and I think there's one more.

I read Tomeygun has a few NV5600's on his lot, but unless their speced for one of the states I mentioned, I don't think I could buy one, unless the 7,500 mile rule applies.
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by 12PACK
Remember with the HO's you could bring one to a "tree hugger friendly" state if it had 7,500 miles as it would be considered used. Any one know if the same rules apply to the 600's?

Maynard, if you goto Edmunds and price out a new Cummins, one of the options are choosing CA, the eight states I mentioned and I think there's one more.

I read Tomeygun has a few NV5600's on his lot, but unless their speced for one of the states I mentioned, I don't think I could buy one, unless the 7,500 mile rule applies.
He has one less. I drove 300 + miles to get a 2005 2500 NV5600 from Tom today. He gave me a great deal and is a real helpful guy. I highly recommend Tomeygun!! BTW I am going to cancel my order for the G-56 I ordered in Feb. I am not going to pay 40g to be a beta tester
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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I doubt any of the ones he has are speced, emission wise, for MA so I'm probably out of luck.

The other thread on only the Getrag 6 speeds, going in the 1500's, being on hold would be nice if it's accurate. But then, if I could get a G56 equipt CTD, I'd be one of the guinea pigs.
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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Any ideas where they are on the G56.. .I have a friend that is supposed to be picking one up Monday or Tuesday... Are they all on hold??? or just the ones on order??? I'll be interested to slide under that thing and see that tranny... sure don't like the dual mass flywheel....
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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Any ideas where they are on the G56.. .I have a friend that is supposed to be picking one up Monday or Tuesday... Are they all on hold??? or just the ones on order???
Go here: http://www.turbodieselregister.com/f...6&page=5&pp=15 and start at the last post on the page. Follow the thread, especially Rick@DSM's post on page 6. It's frustrating...but somewhat interesting if his info is accurate.
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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He called them early this AM.. and by 9-10 he had two dealers that had trucks that he wanted... They are going to get it setup for him tomorrow.. and He'll pick it up on Friday.... He is going to get all the options he was wanting...
We stopped my a dealer in Dallas this afternoon... Just to look... "what U looking for.." reply "Cummins... 6 speed..." We just don't stock those.. most in this area are wanting Autos.. " What ever....
Glad he is getting exactly what he wants... and thanks to everyone on here.. and the TDR.. for the info...
I'm sure they will get the G56 ironed out... but on someone else's board...
Bryan
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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Hi all,

My first post here! Well, I've been reading all the threads here and on TDR about the G56 issues with great interest, since I'm the new owner of a G56 CTD. I picked my up on 3/24 and I currently have 3500 miles on it, with no problems so far (knocking on wood). It looks like there is a substantial amount of speculation about the problems, but very little confirmed information has been provided by DC. I'm not too terribly concerned...yet. There is little reason to get greatly concerned until either DC does actually release information or my transmission does actually fail. In either event, DC is obligated under the warranty to remedy the issue, as I'm sure they will.

Just to add yet more speculation to the current speculation...Currently the "hold" from DC is only targeted specifically at those units that are in transit to dealerships, and has not expressed concern (yet) about units that have already been sold. While there may still be an issue with the G56's on the road, also consider that the "hold" may only apply to the units in transit because maybe DC just got a bad batch of transmissions. Maybe the batches of G56's currently on the road are okay. Working in manufacturing myself several years ago, I do know that this kinda thing happens from time to time. Maybe Mercedes got a bad batch of output shaft bearings, for example, from their supplier and they caught the problem before the units arrived on dealers lots. While the preceeding batch, that's now currently on the road, might be okay. Maybe a particular assembly machine got out of calibration at some point during manufacturing and they caught it, who knows. But, I know from working in manufacturing that it's not uncommon to recall certain batches of product due to manufacturing defects, and that doesn't necessarily mean that all existing units are flawed or poorly engineered. The fix may entail DC replacing output shaft bearings (if that's really the problem) with bearings from a different batch. Based on what has happened so far, it would be premature to dismiss all G56's as fatally flawed. Give DC a little time to get a handle on the problem and wait for them to announce the final outcome.

I personally really like the G56 transmission. I hope that mine is unaffected by these recent events. But if it is, I'm confident that DC will handle the issue appropriately. If DC does determine that mine is flawed and decides to repair it, that's fine with me. If they decide to replace it with another make/model transmission, that's also fine by me. The burden is on DC to keep my truck's drivetrain reliably rolling down the road for the next 7 years/70K miles, so it's in their best interest to nail down the problem, if there even is one with mine.

Just some added speculation and food for thought...
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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Hi all, My first post here! Currently the "hold" from DC is only targeted specifically at those units that are in transit to dealerships, and has not expressed concern (yet) about units that have already been sold. While there may still be an issue with the G56's on the road, also consider that the "hold" may only apply to the units in transit because maybe DC just got a bad batch of transmissions.
Welcome, sdaly, first of all. You bring up a good point. When we first got wind of the issue (whatever it is) only trucks in transit were halted. Trucks sold and trucks currently on lots weren't involved. Your theory ties into this. With recalls and TSB's, dates of manufacture and sometimes where the vehicles were built, are always listed. If this is indeed what happened, the first and future G56's are/will be fine. The ones in the middle will be repaired before the owners ever see them. If that's the case, no TSB will be issued, no bad press and no inconvienced (furious) owners. Hopefully that's the case.
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 10:41 PM
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Well, I was at the dealer for about an hour today discussing my truck that was ordered over 2 months ago. Apparently it has finally made it to Port Newark, NJ where it remains on hold. The district manager said that they will perform an inspection and pending the result of the inspection they will either release the truck or it will "disappear". I said disappear? The salesman said that means it'll be like you never even ordered the truck. So I'd be left out to dry on a new truck. That's when we started searching for an NV5600-equipped truck. He's going to try to get more information out of the district manager as far as timing, etc. I really don't feel like waiting around for another couple of months only to have DC tell me that I will not be getting my new truck. I still want it because it's exactly what I ordered but they had better put the priority on the ones that have been sold. I need to start looking at other avenues. The waiting continues...
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 12:34 AM
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I was told on tuesday that my truck is now quarrantined in Baltimore. That was all the dealer knew, he said he spoke with the district sales manager and he knew nothing else. I filled him in with what I knew and asked him to find me a similar truck. I am going in this afternoon to pick from the few he found. Hopefully I will have a CTD next week.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 05:31 AM
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That's when we started searching for an NV5600-equipped truck. He's going to try to get more information out of the district manager as far as timing, etc.
If you come across a 2500 or 3500 4x4 QC SB NV5600 with either Laramie package would you let me know? Albany isn't that far for me. ;-)
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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12Pack, no problem, I'll let you know what i come up with and what the dealer finds. While I was there he actually found another G56-equipped truck on the system but noted that it probably was in the same lot as mine - on hold.

abryant, so you finally thru in the towel too? Are you looking for another G56 that's already on a dealer's lot or are you going with the NV5600? The more I look, the more I think I want the NV5600 even if only for the better overdrive ratio. I plan to find one with 3.73s which would be even better than the G56 with 3.73s, especially with the way diesel prices are now!
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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12pack,

KY is a long way from you, but I found a couple of Laramie 3500SRW's with the NV5600 and I also found many 2500's. If you want, I will look them up and give you more details.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 07:44 PM
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12Pack, no problem, I'll let you know what i come up with and what the dealer finds. While I was there he actually found another G56-equipped truck on the system but noted that it probably was in the same lot as mine - on hold.
A sales guru I've been emailing got back to me today. He's located a white 3500 4x4 qc sb 6 sp. It's an SLT w/tan cloth, so he wanted to know if I was still interested. You know, I forgot to ask if it's a NV5600, but with what's going on it must be. I told him what I didn't want (QC LB, 4.10 gears) but would consider any 2500's and SLT or Laramie's as long as they're 6 speeds. I'd much rather have the 5600, but this late in the model year, I know I'm going to have to compromise.

He had no info on the G56's and said I might have more info than he did. FWIW, He mentioned the sunroofs still being on hold and his guess was they didn't like cutting a hole in the roof with 610 lbs of torque under the hood. I don't want one, but anyone know if any Hemi's have been able to get one?

EKU, the Blue Grass and farm lands of KY are never to far to travel to (Oh wait, Pitino's back) , but with the emission issue I'm limited to trucks spec'd out for New England, NY & NJ. CA would probably work too, but THAT's a little too far. I could order one for elsewhere as long as it's spec'd for MA, but by the time it came in, I'd have a hard time getting away from work due to summer vacations. Thanks for the offer, though.
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by Buickwagon
abryant, so you finally thru in the towel too? Are you looking for another G56 that's already on a dealer's lot or are you going with the NV5600? The more I look, the more I think I want the NV5600 even if only for the better overdrive ratio. I plan to find one with 3.73s which would be even better than the G56 with 3.73s, especially with the way diesel prices are now!
I found a patriot blue/silver 2500 with the NV-5600 and some extra options. I should have it next tuesday. The reported clutch failure and lack of the infomation about the hold/problem were what finally did it for me. The better gear ratio was considered too. Not many left out there according to my dealer. He found 2 in my area close to what I had ordered, one of which I told him about I originally decided to order without looking for a similar one because I wanted the adjustible pedals. I decided they weren't worth being a guinea pig on the new tranny/clutch.
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