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kris55 05-10-2011 03:28 PM

first oil change...
 
I am about to do my first oil change on my truck, dealer has done all the rest till now.

I am wondering what normal tools (like what size socket etc.), and if any special tools will be needed, and or tricks that may make it easier, i will be able to use a lift so that should help a little.

I have also read the oil filter tricks of removing and installing with either a bag or 2 liter bottle cut to fit. Anything else is appreciated.

I have done a search but there is just way too much too try to skim through so I am just looking for the basics. THAnks!!!

AH64ID 05-10-2011 03:55 PM

I normally drain it (3/8" socket for the plug, and open the fill cap) first, and let it drain as the motor cools for at least 30 minutes. By then the oil has cooled and the filter shouldn't spill any oil (mine never does).

I find it easier to remove the inner fender liner, 2 minute job, to R&R the filter.

Just don't forget to put the plug in before you start to fill it!

kris55 05-10-2011 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by AH64ID (Post 2966486)
I normally drain it (3/8" socket for the plug, and open the fill cap) first, and let it drain as the motor cools for at least 30 minutes. By then the oil has cooled and the filter shouldn't spill any oil (mine never does).

I find it easier to remove the inner fender liner, 2 minute job, to R&R the filter.

Just don't forget to put the plug in before you start to fill it!

thank you!!

cdennyb 05-10-2011 05:16 PM

yep... same thing
 
I use the 3/8 drive ratchet, fits the oil pan drain plug perfect. Big pan (3 gallons of oil right?) and I use a bread bag or plastic bag big enough to fit over the spin on filter and since I have a aftermarket intake tube it's easier to loosen two hose clamps and remove it than to go the inner fender route.

Just my way.

robtackett 05-10-2011 07:48 PM

oil filter
 
The easiest and fastest way I've found to remove the filter is by using the "6 wrenches in 1" filter cap wrench from Geno's (only a few $$$). No need to remove the wheel well liner or air track. Just attach a couple of socket extensions and roll under the front of the truck with a creeper. Easily reaches right up to the filter and there is enough room to unscrew and bring it down. I, like others, let it cool for a while before removing. Never have any spill that way. Only takes about a minute to remove the oil filter.

PoorMansCat 05-10-2011 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by kris55 (Post 2966478)
I am about to do my first oil change on my truck, dealer has done all the rest till now.

I am wondering what normal tools (like what size socket etc.), and if any special tools will be needed, and or tricks that may make it easier, i will be able to use a lift so that should help a little.

I have also read the oil filter tricks of removing and installing with either a bag or 2 liter bottle cut to fit. Anything else is appreciated.

I have done a search but there is just way too much too try to skim through so I am just looking for the basics. THAnks!!!

Torque plug to 40 lbs... of course.. now you have to answer the big question... To fill, or not to fill.... THAT is the question?????

AH64ID 05-11-2011 10:41 AM

Forgot to add that you will probably need a filter wrench for the filter, I always have!

Also, there is much debate on to just add 3 gallons or to use the dipstick.. so you will have to draw your own conclusions, but the dipstick has never failed me.

klx650a2 05-11-2011 11:54 AM

Also, make sure you have a oil pan with tall FRIGGIN sides. Ask me how I know, the oil that comes out of that engine does so with the force I estimate at 300 psi at 500 gpm and its at 200 degrees too!!! It will hit the bottom of the pan and splash out in a perfect (except where you are laying) circle, staining the concrete and permanently ruining your shirt, shorts and shoes that you assured you wife you would not get dirty (because I'm "only changing the oil, what could happen?"). To add insult to injury, it will also ruin the watch your wife got for your birthday and it will get in your hair, stain your forehead, face and arms for 3 days. During which time, ANY attempt at getting close to your significant other is reduced to 0.

You'll notice that I have the EZ Change oil plug on my truck now and all these events do not happen anymore.

AH64ID 05-11-2011 12:51 PM

Good point!

I put a cardboard box with the bottom cut out between the pan/pan.

papaduck 05-12-2011 03:15 AM

I use a pan with deep sides and it does not splash out. I also use a 12" extension with a socket type wrench on the filter. Putting a paper towel in the socket will help grip the filter, if needed. Make sure that the filter gasket comes off with the filter and is not stuck to the filter base.

I do not use a creeper. I have found that a large piece of cardboard will allow me more room under the truck with out jacking it up and I can slide around easily on the cardboard.

Also as soon as you start the engine and have oil pressure, check for leaks!

Hairy1 05-12-2011 07:04 AM

Fill the new filter with oil before reinstalling!
Torque plug to 37 ft.lbs.

rockcrawler304 05-12-2011 07:27 AM

And to be completely confused on the installation of the new filter. read this >>> https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...t-t289462.html

After you do this, you will kick yourself in the butt for ever paying the steal... I mean dealer to do it! [guitar]

kris55 05-12-2011 01:57 PM

Did it yesterday, no problems at all,I was able to reach the filter with my arms and twist it off by hand. A wrench will definitely be ordered to make it easier next time, especially with an extension attached, but I managed, I suppose the hoist helped the access to the filter as well.

Thanks again for the info!!!

Fiftygrit 05-12-2011 02:02 PM

I also use a 3/8 inch ratchet, I have 2 extensions and a band clamp for the filter, use a 3/8 inch ratchet for the filter also, works great, like they said make sure you fill the new filter with oil before installing. good luck

Hairy1 05-12-2011 08:00 PM

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02820523000P

This works great... cheap to, can turn with wrench or 3/8 ratchet handle


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