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jesse_jamz 12-10-2007 05:53 PM

In an emergency can I use heating oil for fuel?
 
Every station around had no diesel one day last week [nonono], luckily I have three vehciles but I wondered if I could use heating oil? I know could have in my 95 12 valve but not sure with the 2007 5.9.

Any answers?

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mykal41 12-10-2007 08:48 PM

I see that crown vic are you trying to set me up? You can run it in a pinch (but only off highway!!!)

gunny 12-10-2007 08:57 PM

#2 fuel oil in a 12V Cummins. Why yes, that would work just fine.

DaveB.inVa 12-10-2007 10:41 PM

You could but I don't think it would meet the lubricity requirements for the CP3.

If it was an emergency you could run it but I would put a good double or so dose of TCW3 ashless 2 cycle oil in to help with lubricity.

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wreedCTD 12-10-2007 11:15 PM

the manual says something about running other fuels in emergency. i believe you need to add a certain amount of lube oil..

read your manual.

jesse_jamz 12-11-2007 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by wreedCTD (Post 1834448)
... lube oil..

read your manual.

Thanks all. I thought the Cat Converter might be a problem but it seems the lubricity of heating oil is not there.

Read the manual? [duhhh]

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rustyshakelford 12-11-2007 10:43 AM

if your heating oil is diesel than id say run it[laugh]...normally id charge for these types of answers

brett

turbo246 12-11-2007 10:47 AM

yes you can run it we have a farm 12 valve that has ran on it off road for years, no problems they say the red fuel provides more lubricity and sulfur. BUT i had a friend with a newer powerstroke 05, and he ran some emergency situation, and it died. he brought it to the dealer and they said it clogged the injectors. so i know the the dodges up to 2001 not sure about past 2001

Truckman0097 12-11-2007 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by turbo246 (Post 1834949)
yes you can run it we have a farm 12 valve that has ran on it off road for years, no problems they say the red fuel provides more lubricity and sulfur. BUT i had a friend with a newer powerstroke 05, and he ran some emergency situation, and it died. he brought it to the dealer and they said it clogged the injectors. so i know the the dodges up to 2001 not sure about past 2001

Why up to 2001? Didnt 12 valves get discontinued in 98?

jesse_jamz 12-11-2007 11:38 AM

I thought the ultra low sulpher had less lubricity. So why the need for an additive in late style 5.9 24 valve?

:confused:

DaveB.inVa 12-11-2007 12:23 PM

The 94-98 12 valves used a P7100 injection pump. It is lubricated by engine oil so if a diesel can burn it the P7100 wont be affected by it. Engines with this pump can run #1 & #2 Diesel, 1K & 2K Kerosene, Jet-A, Jet A-1, JP-5, and JP-8 with no problems.

The VE pump on 1st gens, the VP44 on 98.5-02 and the CP3 on 03+ all use fuel for lubrication. Its not that the engine can't run on it. Its just the fuels lubricity is too low to prevent damage to these pumps. You shouldn't do it unless it was a dire emergency but these can run on 1K & 2K Kerosene, Jet-A, Jet A-1, JP-5, and JP-8. But additional lube oil of at least 5% must be added to prevent damage.


Under no circumstances can you run Jet-B, JP-4, and Cite!

ptgarcia 12-11-2007 01:06 PM

I hear heating oil is very dirty so keep a fresh fuel filter handy.

CTD NUT 12-11-2007 03:00 PM

On another note, many times heating oil isn't even dyed. I have come across this many times where I live. It isn't being marketed or dispensed as offroad fuel so there appears to be little attempt to identify it differently than road fuel. It kind of makes me wonder if it is different at all. I have heard rumors (don't you just love that?) that fuel suppliers often find it cheaper in the long run not to have to store and transport as many different types of diesel even if the purchase cost are slightly more than others. Storage and distribution costs are claimed of multiple fuels are claimed to more than offset the small cost differences of the fuels themselves. My experience seems to support this since every time I have checked my heating oil tank it was not dyed and very obviously a natural diesel fuel colour.

Springer 12-11-2007 03:56 PM

Around here home heating fuel is dyed diesel fuel.Exact same stuff they deliver for off road construction vehicles.

Striper 12-11-2007 04:46 PM

The #2 heating oil in this county has a higher sulfur content than ULSD or even LSD. It cannot even be sold in the neighboring county. Definetly not the cleanest, but I still have considered it.


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