Our '03 2500 with 165K wouldn't start the other morning. Temp was about 40F. Dealer put it in the shop and it started. Next morning it was left outside and wouldn't start.

It has had the normal service from the dealer.

Now they say they have found metal particles in the fuel lines and the injectors and injector pump needs servicing for $3000.00.

They claim the booster pump in the tank failed or had low pressure starving the main pump for lubrication. This pump then failed sending metal through the system.

If this is the case, why isn't there a low pressure switch in the line leading from the tank? Sounds like a convenient way to insure repair business.

Then I read in this forum it is somewhat common knowledge that the booster pumper needs replaced around 70K miles. Did I miss something in the owners manual about this???

There weren't any warning signs at all..............the truck ran fine until the morning it wouldn't start.

I like the good gas mileage and the pulling power of this truck. But after several u-joints, driveshafts, and other numerous repair bills, keeping this truck on the road has been very expensive.

I'm looking for any comments or suggestions regarding my predicament.

 

Isnt the fuel filter there to take those particles out of the fuel?
I'd tell them to put in a new booster pump and give me my truck back.

 

Be lucky they're servicing rather than replacing the CP3 pump, injectors, lines, fuel rail, and filter bowl.

 

I think the filter is before the inj pump and if the inj pump has low fuel pressure the metal shavings (from the inj pump) can go into the injectors

 

03 doesn't have the lift pump in the tank unless its been changed.Its on the filter housing.There is no SET MILEAGE lift pumps go bad.Some of the old styles go in the hundereds of thousand with no issues.I want to SEE this metal and why did not the fuel filter catch it.If its from the CP3 it needs replacing not servicing.What do they mean by SERVICE CP3 and injectors.Thats a real vaugue/broad statement. The CP3's on these trucks are not suppose to be damaged by low fuel psi.That is the OLD VP44 pumps used on 2nd gens.Metal can come from many sources.Need to know from WHERE not a maybe.If its from the filter mounted EXTERNAL liftpump the filter is there to catch depris and if its in tank pump same deal.The intank retofit pumps have had very little issues.Very little.Now the CP3 could have crapped out on its on and the metal is from it.Then again if so you need a NEW or REMAN one and metal flushed from system.Need more accurate info.

 

Thanks for the input guys.

If indeed the CP3 was bad and throwing metal into the system, would I notice other problems in the days leading to the no start when in the upper 30s?

This truck has ran just fine until the no start issue one morning.

I'm surprised to learn my truck might not have a booster pump in the tank. I'll call the dealer back but am pretty sure they claimed it's failure is what started the CP3 pump to spit metal.

Talked to an International diesel tech and he was surprised the CP3 would eat itself with low pressure. He didn't think the truck would even run with low pressure from the booster thus eliminating the CP3 from dieing due to low pressure.

 

03 and 04s did not have a intank pump.Its external.If the external fails the UPDATE is a intank pump.I'd have to be SHOWN that the lift pump be it in the tank or external shredded the metal.As far as a issue before the failure seems not.It might have just failed hour before or ??? I'd want to know where the metal came from first.

 

Update to my problem:

Had the dealer install a new booster pump ONLY. Upon recommendation of another diesel tech that claimed 85% of the time, replacing the booster pump will be all that's wrong.

Now running a sulfur replacement and hoping it will keep the truck on the road until it's paid off!

 

Installed a new updated pump in the tank or?? What has a sulfur got to do with it?