John_P

Yesterday, I was at my local Dodge dealer (National<br>Dodge) in Jacksonville, N.C. I stopped by the service<br>department to see my regular Dodge/Cummins <br>Technician (Roy) and sitting in his bay was a<br>brand new 2003 Dodge CTD 4X4 3500 SRW, Black<br>Automatic 4 door. The hood was up and I noticed <br>that the valve cover was off and the valvetrain<br>partially &quot;disassembled.&quot; I asked Roy what was<br>wrong with the truck and he said &quot;Heavy fuel<br>was in the oil, Cummins forgot to put the seals<br>on the injectors!&quot; They were waiting for parts<br>(6 completely new injectors). I asked him how<br>much they cost and he said $4,800.00 for the<br>set of (6) six!!!!!!!! I was surprised to say<br>the least!! That is $800.00 apiece!!!!!<br>I realize that is probably &quot;Dodge's Price&quot;, but<br>that is still VERY HIGH!! I noticed that the<br>injector has a large top on it, and two wires<br>go to each injector. (Electronics for the<br>common rail I think.) <br><br>Quite a difference from what my six (6) 370<br>Diamond B Injectors cost; $549.00. You can<br>get a set of six from Piers now for $299.00!!<br><br>-------<br>John_P

phox_mulder

Yup.<br><br>The electronics are in each injector instead of just in the pump.<br><br><br>Amazing, 1 injector for the same price we can get 6 for our ancient trucks.<br><br><br><br>phox

Shovelhead

Remember all the fun we had kiddin' the
ferd and chebbie guys about their big $$$$ to BOMB injection systems?

Well guess what... now we've got one too.

Wise man once say...&quot;Beware the toes you step on today.......'cuz they might be connected to the butt you gonna have to kiss tomorrow&quot;.

StakeMan

The good thing is that you may only have to replace the injector tips.

Push Rod

[quote author=StakeMan link=board=20;threadid=5812;start=0#52203 date=1034493261]<br>The good thing is that you may only have to replace the injector tips.<br>[/quote]<br><br>Unfortunately, with Bosch injectors, this may turn out to be almost as expensive as replacing an entire injector assembly. Bosch seems to hate selling quantities of tips. :'( A set of tips and needles, direct from Boch, costs me more than a complete set of RV275s. ???<br><br>I think we'll see the injector costs come down before much longer, maybe in a year or two. The cost of Duramax injectors has dropped 33% in the past couple months. I don't think there will be much need of injector mods, besides minor, do it yourself mods, for the next year or so.<br><br>Rod

StakeMan

I saw what a custom set of injectors did for a Duramax. If I had a common rail cummins I would be the first to have injectors.

iah145ca

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TxDiesel007

I know your pain John

ive done injectors on my 05, and now my dads just lost the motor on it... Makes you want to go outside and hug your 12 valve that much more don't it? I know I hug mine daily now... commonrails are oh so smooth and sweet on power, but their Achilles heel injectors, OUCH when they go...

they are also more involved to change out, takes me three to four times longer on a CR than the couple of hours on my 12 valve..

im seriously considering selling my CR to go back to another 12 valve work truck..

the more I deal with common rails, the more I realize that one of my biggest mistakes was selling my old reliable 96...

don't make the same mistake I did.. EVER... your truck is too nice to go anywhere else as well (except to me if you ever do... )