Can VP Fail Even Tho' Good Pressure?
Hi, Just wondering if the VP44 can fail even though you've got good fuel pressure? I have a Raptor 150 that pushes very good pressure; just wondering if consistent pressure helps prevent the VP from going bad...idunno (pardon if dumb question)[duhhh].
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Originally Posted by danalex
(Post 2870987)
Hi, Just wondering if the VP44 can fail even though you've got good fuel pressure? I have a Raptor 150 that pushes very good pressure; just wondering if consistent pressure helps prevent the VP from going bad...idunno (pardon if dumb question)[duhhh].
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johnh, Thanks (sigh)... Appears your VP lasted up to 181K; any idea why it failed (other than age), and did you do anything extra to keep it alive that long?
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early VPs failed from all kinds of things the new ones are mostly electronics burning out ,I was told that they have a key stroke life span some last longer its the luck of the draw if you get a long runner. my VP is near 150k miles orig.
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yes they can.
It seems that the general consensus is leaning towards the computer chip which controls it and the number of heat cycles it goes through. Apparently the EPA requirement of non lead solder is biting us in the tailpipe, or wallet. Lots of good info here. BTW - not a dumb question at all. |
Yes they can.
I'm on pump number 4 right now. [tapdshut] Never had less than 12 psi at WOT. |
Originally Posted by danalex
(Post 2871055)
johnh, Thanks (sigh)... Appears your VP lasted up to 181K; any idea why it failed (other than age), and did you do anything extra to keep it alive that long?
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WMO...I've heard of folks using that. Do you strain it (how; what do you use to strain it)? and how much do you add per 30gal tank?
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Its not uncommon for guys to replace their stock lift pump with an aftermarket fuel pump and then have the factory VP quit shortly after. Call it coincidence or the fact that most guys dont bother to change to a better fuel pump until they've already replaced one or two LP's before and/or they've just found out that they had little to no fuel pressure and are hoping that a new fuel pump will restore the damage done. Plus their VP probably has more than a few miles racked up on it too.
The VP electronics need to stay cool because of the asinine reason that Bosch opted to use lead free solder in the computer which deteriorates under high heat situations, causing intermittent connections, and eventual failure. Running fuel pressures above 14-16 psi which the overflow valve is set at will assure that the VP always has fuel running through it, keeping it cool(er) while the engine is running. But after the engine is shut down then the engine heat soaks the VP, getting it hotter than it should be. This is the heat cycle problem which is why the VP is called a time bomb, because no one knows how many of those "heat cycles" it takes for the computer to short out. Plus the ambient weather is a determining factor. Also, if the VP is a re-manufactured unit then all the internals are the updated versions which means its fully capable of handling ULSD. But if adding any lubricating additives makes you feel better than by all means..... |
Blue Chip has an answer for the heat soak problem.
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Originally Posted by Scooter
(Post 2873495)
Blue Chip has an answer for the heat soak problem.
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Originally Posted by Scooter
(Post 2873495)
Blue Chip has an answer for the heat soak problem.
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Originally Posted by johnh
(Post 2871053)
it may help some, but it WILL fail because that is what they do[laugh][coffee]..........all vp44's fail
Bingo. Fuel pressure is NOT the cure for VP failure, and absence of such is not the *cause* of VP failure. In the 12 years+ that the VP trucks have been on the road, no one has YET proven that low fuel pressure causes the VP to fail. JH |
Originally Posted by HOHN
(Post 2874896)
Bingo.
Fuel pressure is NOT the cure for VP failure, and absence of such is not the *cause* of VP failure. In the 12 years+ that the VP trucks have been on the road, no one has YET proven that low fuel pressure causes the VP to fail. JH |
Originally Posted by danalex
(Post 2871543)
WMO...I've heard of folks using that. Do you strain it (how; what do you use to strain it)? and how much do you add per 30gal tank?
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