Big Brake update
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From: My head lays down in Murrieta, but the day light hours are spent in San Diego, Ca.
I've been to the dodge dealer and checked out the brackets - $51 a piece and have to be special ordered.
NAPA has the brackets supposedly and they come with new calipers ($84+core) but they are special order for the 2003+ models
I find this strange because I've purchased calipers before and they did not come with the brackets...
Premium front rotors are $40 less for 2003+ than the 2001 - go figure.
So far, the caliper brackets are different between 01 and 03+ (no brainer). The calipers them selves are different as well. This shakes my confidence a bit, but I'm going to check the neighbor's truck at the firs opportunity I get.
I'll be 50 miles away for the rest of today, so this will be added to my weekend todo list
NAPA has the brackets supposedly and they come with new calipers ($84+core) but they are special order for the 2003+ models
I find this strange because I've purchased calipers before and they did not come with the brackets...Premium front rotors are $40 less for 2003+ than the 2001 - go figure.
So far, the caliper brackets are different between 01 and 03+ (no brainer). The calipers them selves are different as well. This shakes my confidence a bit, but I'm going to check the neighbor's truck at the firs opportunity I get.
I'll be 50 miles away for the rest of today, so this will be added to my weekend todo list
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Ok, here's the deal. Car Quest has calipers loaded with pads AND a mounting bracket for all '03 to '06 Dodge CTD. Right side part number is 18B4890, and the left side part number is 18B4891. List price is $138.28 each. We have a corperate account so our price is around $85 each.
The computer doesn't give the measurements, so someone will have to go down and have the part pulled and measure themself.
Hope this helps.
James
The computer doesn't give the measurements, so someone will have to go down and have the part pulled and measure themself.
Hope this helps.
James
I'll take my bracket off tomorrow and take it with me to Car Quest for a match up (easier than pulling two trucks apart).
Only problem is that I don't have my 19.5s yet. I'll start collecting the parts.
We still need the dust shields though?
Only problem is that I don't have my 19.5s yet. I'll start collecting the parts.
We still need the dust shields though?
Sorry, but in 2000 they changed the way the ball joints enter the axle and knuckles, so just swapping the knuckles is impossible, and mounting the dual-piston calipers on the earlier knuckles won't happen without some machining, if even then.
If you want dual piston calipers, your best bet is probably, besides the axle listed above, getting a mid-90s F350 axle to put in there. It's been done, by another member here, and in addition to the slide on rotors and dual-piston calipers, he also has lockout hubs.
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From: My head lays down in Murrieta, but the day light hours are spent in San Diego, Ca.
You know, I was just thinking, couldn't the older trucks just do an axle swap from a 2000 or newer? Seems to me that would be pretty basic. I've done axle swaps on both my old K-5 and '77 half ton making them 3/4 tons. Well at least as far as the axle strenght was concered. So why not mount a Dana 60 from a 2000 or 2001 to a 1999 or a 1995?
Over the weekend I took measurements of my neighbor's truck and made my purchase. (spacing appears to be consistent 9" for bracket, 7" for caliper)
I'd wait for my confirmation before you jump into this but my 2001.5 to 2003 brakes have been ordered.
I went with the 13.9" on front and std (for 2001, after Jan 1, 2001) 12.5" on the rear.
The calipers are of the 2003 revised variety. I purchased the premium "loaded" package which offered the calipers, pads and brackets for the front.
Since I have to do all around, the price came out to $890 including core charges and tax.
Front Calipers, Brackets, Rotors, and Pads
Rear Calipers, Rotors, and Pads
I did not get a price on dust shields for the front. I know the offset on the wheels is enough to protect the brakes for the most part, I may just hack the originals or delete the shields all together
. We'll see...
I've had OEM 17" Alloy's since last fall, so no need for me to go to the larger wheel - already there.
Should I succeed, I promise to list the NAPA part numbers for the front brake conversion. I'll also provide some feedback on the conversion over time to indicate whether its even worth it.... I think its a gamble worth taking because there are far fewer complaints about the current gen brakes than previous years.
Wish me luck, the special order parts arrive this week.
I'd wait for my confirmation before you jump into this but my 2001.5 to 2003 brakes have been ordered.
I went with the 13.9" on front and std (for 2001, after Jan 1, 2001) 12.5" on the rear.
The calipers are of the 2003 revised variety. I purchased the premium "loaded" package which offered the calipers, pads and brackets for the front.
Since I have to do all around, the price came out to $890 including core charges and tax.
Front Calipers, Brackets, Rotors, and Pads
Rear Calipers, Rotors, and Pads
I did not get a price on dust shields for the front. I know the offset on the wheels is enough to protect the brakes for the most part, I may just hack the originals or delete the shields all together
. We'll see...I've had OEM 17" Alloy's since last fall, so no need for me to go to the larger wheel - already there.
Should I succeed, I promise to list the NAPA part numbers for the front brake conversion. I'll also provide some feedback on the conversion over time to indicate whether its even worth it.... I think its a gamble worth taking because there are far fewer complaints about the current gen brakes than previous years.
Wish me luck, the special order parts arrive this week.
No progress, VP44 failure
Just a status... I've had the parts in since Wed this week. I got the dreaded p0216 too. Surge and dead pedal fun. I should not have watched Dan's Video
(good timing on the VP44 replacement Dan - no pun intended)
Its bitter sweet because I had only about 900 miles left on the warranty. I like the fact that I'm covered under warranty, but I don't like that someone else is doing the work.
The dealer has agreed to replace the vp44, I only hope that all goes well.
Looks like I'll be having to take off work next week so I'll update on my brake swap Tuesday or Wednesday.
(good timing on the VP44 replacement Dan - no pun intended)Its bitter sweet because I had only about 900 miles left on the warranty. I like the fact that I'm covered under warranty, but I don't like that someone else is doing the work.
The dealer has agreed to replace the vp44, I only hope that all goes well.
Looks like I'll be having to take off work next week so I'll update on my brake swap Tuesday or Wednesday.
Update
I hate to pull another cliff-hanger, but I just got my truck back from the shop.
As soon as I got home though, I took the passenger front tire, caliper and rotor off.
I dry fitted the 03+ disk and caliper without hooking up the banjo bolt, and I did not put the 2006 17" wheel back on. The bolt holes line up and there do not appear to be any clearance issues whatsoever. I will not even have to goof with the dust shields
So far, I'm very satisfied that this is a bolt and go solution to the MY2001 brake problems I've been dealing with since I've purchased the truck.
I'm VERY optimistic that this will work just fine. In fact, so pleased that I'll have my wife take some pics while I change the brakes. Now all I have to do is find time to do the job - too busy at work
Well I feel a cold coming on. TBC
As soon as I got home though, I took the passenger front tire, caliper and rotor off.
I dry fitted the 03+ disk and caliper without hooking up the banjo bolt, and I did not put the 2006 17" wheel back on. The bolt holes line up and there do not appear to be any clearance issues whatsoever. I will not even have to goof with the dust shields
So far, I'm very satisfied that this is a bolt and go solution to the MY2001 brake problems I've been dealing with since I've purchased the truck.
I'm VERY optimistic that this will work just fine. In fact, so pleased that I'll have my wife take some pics while I change the brakes. Now all I have to do is find time to do the job - too busy at work
Well I feel a cold coming on. TBC
Wooo Hoooo!
I'm still waiting for my 19.5s to come in and then I'll be heading over to order the parts.
??????? do you think its possible to get the parts cross number for the bracket so that I can order it from the dealer and not have to pay for the core charge?
The mounting bracket should be around fifty dollars.
I cant wait to see the pictures!!!! and here how it works!!!!!
Mark
I'm still waiting for my 19.5s to come in and then I'll be heading over to order the parts.
??????? do you think its possible to get the parts cross number for the bracket so that I can order it from the dealer and not have to pay for the core charge?
The mounting bracket should be around fifty dollars.
I cant wait to see the pictures!!!! and here how it works!!!!!
Mark



