Whining noise - like tires whine but it is not
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Whining noise - like tires whine but it is not
I have searched for hours and can't find what I am looking for so now I will ask. I am stumped. You can hear this noise starting at 25-30 mph and up. It doesn't vary much with speed though.
This noise is getting louder, I think it is coming from the front but can't guarantee it. I have jacked it it up several times and have had all 4 wheels off at least twice. Everything seems tight (right lower ball joint a little loose). All 4 wheels turn smooth with no obvious play or grinding. I squeezed the calipers just a little to eliminate any drag and still no obvious end play in the bearings.
I rotated the tires twice (Michelin XLTs which are wearing fine) and it made absolutely no difference. Wet and snowy roads don't make any difference either so I am sure it is not the tires.
I took the front drive shaft off and it didn't make any difference either.
Brakes were new shortly before this started about 8 thousand miles ago. It is bugging me, when will it let me down?
Lately I have noticed it gets louder if you turn a little to the left and quieter if you turn just a little to the right.
On top off all that, you can shut the engine off and push the clutch in or throw it in neutral and it still makes this noise - so I know it isn't engine related.
I hope this is enough detail to get some help.
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Dave
P.S. It just turned 104,000 miles.
This noise is getting louder, I think it is coming from the front but can't guarantee it. I have jacked it it up several times and have had all 4 wheels off at least twice. Everything seems tight (right lower ball joint a little loose). All 4 wheels turn smooth with no obvious play or grinding. I squeezed the calipers just a little to eliminate any drag and still no obvious end play in the bearings.
I rotated the tires twice (Michelin XLTs which are wearing fine) and it made absolutely no difference. Wet and snowy roads don't make any difference either so I am sure it is not the tires.
I took the front drive shaft off and it didn't make any difference either.
Brakes were new shortly before this started about 8 thousand miles ago. It is bugging me, when will it let me down?
Lately I have noticed it gets louder if you turn a little to the left and quieter if you turn just a little to the right.
On top off all that, you can shut the engine off and push the clutch in or throw it in neutral and it still makes this noise - so I know it isn't engine related.
I hope this is enough detail to get some help.
Thanks,
Dave
P.S. It just turned 104,000 miles.
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sounds like wheel bearings. i have to replace one on my truck but cant currently afford to. for my IFS they are 200 each, but i have hub assemblies and 2wd. also if you turn right and you hear the noise it usally the right bearing but not always just because you dont have play doesnt mean they arent bad
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If it changes sound as you turn the wheel I would look into wheel bearings first. you might also check the driveshaft carrier bearing on this truck. Kurt
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I don't understand how it could be the tranny
Temperature seems to have nothing to do with this noise. We have had temps from 8 to 50 degrees in the last month and no change in the noise.
Leaning the truck from side to side and making the noise change probably does indicate a dang bearing. Is there any way to verify a bearing is really going before it takes a crap on me? This has been going on for at least 8k miles now and is just starting to get louder.
I'd hate to spend all that money on a couple bearings and find out it is still not fixed.
Also, I had put Amsoil in both diffs when there was about 30k on the truck. I checked the front diff and the stuff is still purty green and up where it should be - but not too full.
Leaning the truck from side to side and making the noise change probably does indicate a dang bearing. Is there any way to verify a bearing is really going before it takes a crap on me? This has been going on for at least 8k miles now and is just starting to get louder.
I'd hate to spend all that money on a couple bearings and find out it is still not fixed.
Also, I had put Amsoil in both diffs when there was about 30k on the truck. I checked the front diff and the stuff is still purty green and up where it should be - but not too full.
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have you checked the ujoints in the front drive shaft? by wobbling the axle shaft up and down in between the housing and the spindle assembly where u can see the u joint?
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Two things come to mind:
1) the seal on the inside of one of the front wheel hub/bearing assemblies. I've heard a few instances where the bearing itself was fine, but the lip seal dried out and started squealing. Verify by jacking it up and spinning each front wheel by hand while listening to the seal with a stethoscope. Try spraying the seal area with a lubricant like Fluid Film to quiet it.
2) The support bearing on the rear driveshaft. They tend to make a high pitched noise, as they are spinning 3 or 4 times faster than the wheels. Ideally, you would run the truck in gear on a hoist while listening to it with a stethoscope, but it is safer to just drop the driveshaft and give it a spin by hand to feel for roughness.
1) the seal on the inside of one of the front wheel hub/bearing assemblies. I've heard a few instances where the bearing itself was fine, but the lip seal dried out and started squealing. Verify by jacking it up and spinning each front wheel by hand while listening to the seal with a stethoscope. Try spraying the seal area with a lubricant like Fluid Film to quiet it.
2) The support bearing on the rear driveshaft. They tend to make a high pitched noise, as they are spinning 3 or 4 times faster than the wheels. Ideally, you would run the truck in gear on a hoist while listening to it with a stethoscope, but it is safer to just drop the driveshaft and give it a spin by hand to feel for roughness.
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Is there any way to verify a bearing is really going before it takes a crap on me? This has been going on for at least 8k miles now and is just starting to get louder.
When the noise starts getting noticable try pushing on the brake pedal,
the calipers unload the bearings and they get quiet.
I suspect that the caliper actually acts as a damper but that simple rule of thumb has never left me stranded.
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I took the front driveshaft off and went for a ride - no change
A couple months ago I took the front driveshaft off and went for a ride - no change.
I have tried puting the brakes on to see if it would make a difference but it didn't. That suprizes me too. I expected a change.
I have tried puting the brakes on to see if it would make a difference but it didn't. That suprizes me too. I expected a change.
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There goes the savings in fuel costs
Gee, I would have been better off feeding my old 454 Chevy. It used twice the fuel, but was cheap to maintain.
I'll start looking for parts.
Any body know of less expensive places to get bearings? Might as well do the bal joints while I am at it. Anything else need done while it is apart?
I'll start looking for parts.
Any body know of less expensive places to get bearings? Might as well do the bal joints while I am at it. Anything else need done while it is apart?
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